MacNCheezus

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[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No, I’m pretty sure I got it right. You believe free speech for the people you agree with, and a bullet to the neck for everyone else. You’re just like any other fascist out there.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Let me get this straight: you're cool with a guy getting murdered for exercising his right to freedom of speech, but when people are getting fired for applauding that, that's a bridge too far? Seems a little precious if you ask me.

You can't just demand freedom of speech when it suits you, and disavow it when it doesn't. That's what fascists do.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I hate to break it to you, but people were in fact fired for openly mocking George Floyd's death. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Listen man, you can be angry all you want, but it's not up to me or you to determine who's a "good" martyr and who isn't. All that matters is that he was popular, and Kirk was VERY popular. Which is why it was such a tremendously stupid idea to make him die for his beliefs.

If he was still alive, he probably would have made a mistake at some point, gotten himself involved in some scandal or another, or otherwise ruined his reputation, but now he'll forever be the guy who got murdered over mere words. The satisfaction will be short lived and the regret will be long, because you can bet they're going to trot him out at every single rally from now on, as the guy that leftism killed because it had no other arguments.

Truly a profoundly stupid idea to be celebrating that.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

No one is celebrating

You literally said in your previous post that all the people who celebrated were edgelords, meaning there WERE people celebrating. Which is it? How about you get your own story straight before accusing me of peddling second-rate propaganda.

He was a hate monger

Whatever the fuck that means...

I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.

Okay, so your plan for fighting fascism is doing the exact same thing that you say fascism thrives on... do you really expect that to work?

Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.

I'm certainly not trying to lionize him. I'm trying to get it through your thick head that making him a martyr for his cause was a phenomenally stupid idea, and everyone who was celebrating it is an absolute retard.

As objectionable and annoying as his words may have been while he was alive, none of them ever managed to fire up their base quite the way his death did. All this has accomplished is to pour oil on the fire. You thought fascism was bad now? Well, MAGA just got their Horst Wessel. It's about to get way worse.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Well, since you can clearly tell the difference between talking about killing someone and actually killing them, I'm sure it won't be too difficult to tell the difference between fantasizing about someone's dead and actually celebrating it.

But the real problem is that while Kirk may have been a dunderhead, at least he was still willing to have a debate. The next guy they're gonna send likely isn't going to be so kind. You want fascism? Because killing the people who are willing to talk is how you get fascism.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (12 children)

You don't think celebrating the murder of a political enemy on national TV isn't setting a dangerous precedent to encourage more political violence from both sides? Do you really want to live in a world where people just get shot for having a different opinion from yours?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (14 children)

You mean like back in 2020-21, when the Biden admin was putting pressure on Twitter to ban anyone who was critical of their COVID policies, and they even ended up deplatforming the guy who pioneered mRNA vaccines?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

Broke: playing ding-dong-ditch or making prank phone calls

Woke: getting the Google AI to hallucinate the origin story of made up idioms

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago

So you're cool with the racism and antisemitism, but ableism is where you draw the line?

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

The mod log certainly helps, because it leaves a public trail of evidence for each ban, but it ultimately still depends on the server admin, because they are in charge of choosing their mods. But at least no one can ban you from the platform entirely, at worst you can get banned from an entire instance.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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