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Yeah, whatever, the dude deserves to be barred from office period, and should already be in jail awaiting trial for all the shit he's pulled.
Reminder that Michael Cohen has been already been indicted, disbarred & served a prison sentence for the same crime we know for a fact Trump committed.
And that Cohen was committing the crime for trump.
I guess we have to start focusing on why they did it then.
- 3 state Supreme Court judges found him guilty of insurrection (4, if you count the judge that said he did it, but didn't think he should be pulled).
Interesting take with zero reference to the judicial decision itself including the rather exhaustive explanations for why they ruled at all instead of ignoring the problem.
His nomination was pretty much guaranteed up until now. The only thing that could change that is Trump behind bars.
If Wisconsin disqualifies Trump he will never have enough votes to win.
Ok let’s do that then.
And follow that with California.
Look I know I shouldn't get ahead of myself here but I'm not too worried about Trump winning CA
This is more relevant for the Republican primary not the general.
Can we give Trump 49 more of these "gifts" please?
And fuck NBC for posting such a dishonest take.
How does banning him from the ballot help him?
It's a ridiculous take, I have no idea.
Seems like a fine example of a lie being told often enough becoming true.
I really wish I had better ways to identify it. Sort of like an avalanche/snowball effect where someone says something that sounds like 4D chess but in reality is Connect 4 on a checkerboard.
Just feels like there's so much stupidity going unchecked because people are afraid to check it.
It lets him keep playing the victim card and his base eats that up. Plus more media coverage, more people saying his name, so on and so on.
2 can play that game though. As I said earlier, let's focus on why they said he can't be on the ballot, he was found guilty of insurrection.
This ruling appears to be designed for scotus review. There's a decent chance they'll overturn it. If that happens, there will be many avenues for Trump to spin this in his favour. That doesn't mean this is a good thing for him overall.
Bottom line - he needs to be convicted of his actual crimes in court.
I'll go out on a limb and say it emboldens anyone that thinks the swamp is rigging the entire system against him, making him some kind of martyr for the cause and rallying people to vote.
For my part I think it may open the floodgates to other states to do the same thing. Would those other states have ever gone Red in the election? Up for debate, but if they do they'll have to go red for another candidate.
Do those people really need more emboldening to vote for Trump?
Like, how many people can possibly be in the "I wasn't sure, but now I'm gonna vote for Trump because he was taken off of some other state's ballot" camp?
Seems like the bad-faith actors that will vote for Trump no matter what want to push the narrative that banning him from ballots actually helps him.
I think it's up to us to rise above their stupidity and manipulation, even if others have not.
The impeachment were supposed to do the same thing and look what happened. If you can't cover this fuckwit honestly then keep his name out of the fucking headline
Impeachment fell on partisan lines. This did not.
Now, some Democrats close to the president fear that knocking Trump from the ballot will flip that script — or at least blunt Biden’s message.
... The decision makes it look "like Colorado is attempting election interference
To who?! Idiots? That's quite a take.
A guy I know said, "they are the ones destroying democracy--he hasn't been convicted!" Ok. IANAL. However... Deciding on barring Trump does not require a separate court case. Weighing evidence to determine if he participated in insurrection is part and parcel of the court case he just went through. They determined he did. Otherwise they would've cited the need for a conviction. But they didn't. Now it is up to SCOTUS.
This is our legal system operating the way it is supposed to. Trump got his due process with respect to this issue and the legal arguments seemed to me (IANAL) to be carefully considered in the initial ruling (I skimmed it) along with reasoning out a sane definition for insurrection based on a number of factors. Show me how the findings are bullshit. You can't because they aren't.(note) I haven't read the CO Supreme Court ruling, though.
The system is working as intended. It followed the 14th Amendment and other laws. I fail to see a problem.
Let's say FL does the same thing but for Biden, claiming that some act of his was insurrection. Ok, cool. As long as the judges follow good legal reasoning and weigh the arguments, then the system works whatever the decision. Since Biden hasn't done insurrection, he will be eligible.
If your guy says shit to a mob like Trump did to get them to storm the fucking capitol, your guy shouldn't be holding office, ffs. Sorry not sorry.
I don’t think Trump needs any help in a Repub primary. And no, I didn’t vote for him.
This. It will boost his numbers in the primary, because he'll spin it as weaponized government, but he has already been doing that the entire time.
We don't stop punishing people just because they can spin it into a polling boost, especially for something as egregious as insurrection by the then current president.
"The optics of the decision before any court has ruled on his indictments just feeds the Trump persecution complex," Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, a veteran presidential campaign aide, said.
Yep the rallying around Trump after this news is all Republicans playing the victim.
The important part for Democrats is that Trump in this court was deemed to have led an insurrection against the United States in Jan 2021. That's the part they need to amplify more than the fact he was banned from the ballot, which is merely a consequence of the finding. Let Repubs cry over the consequences all they wish to.
We have to ensure that justice isn't delayed for the remainder of the cases before next November, because that's what (whatever's left of) Trump's legal team and his supporters in the courts are trying to do.
This is the way I've been thinking about it since 2015.
The MAGoos are like the high school seniors who realize, a few weeks before graduation, that they aren't going to go to college, or get a great job, or accomplish anything after they hit the streets. So they are doing everything they can to make life miserable for the teachers and any student with half a chance of having a life.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Colorado Supreme Court's decision to bar Donald Trump from the state's ballot will help the former president in his quest to win the Republican nomination next year, political insiders in both parties say.
"You know, we talk about democracy, but the whole world is watching the persecution of a political opponent that’s kicking his ass," Trump argued about Biden during a speech Saturday at the University of New Hampshire.
“We all hope Biden wakes up on Christmas morning to an A3 story in the Delaware News Journal saying that the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 in favor of Trump,” the person added.
"Regardless of political affiliation, every citizen registered to vote should not be denied the right to support our former president and the individual who is the leader in every poll of the Republican primary," said Johnson, who endorsed Trump last month.
"The optics of the decision before any court has ruled on his indictments just feeds the Trump persecution complex," Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis, a veteran presidential campaign aide, said.
Trump already holds wide leads over his Republican presidential rivals in national and state-by-state polling, and, with less than a month before voters caucus in Iowa, the Colorado decision promises to rob his opponents of oxygen at a crucial moment for their campaigns.
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He doesn't need any help in the GOP primary. Every other candidate is in single digits lol.
That is certainly a take.
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