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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good.

Australian with three cats here - they're all indoor and happy about it because i'm not a shitarse pet owner. An outdoor cat in Australia is ecological genocide

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

From the cats perspective I think it's quite uncontroversial to say they'd be happier roaming free.

EDIT: I'd really love to hear the argument for why a cat actually prefers to live its enitire life indoors, despite this being something we've only done to them for the past few decades or so.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I could literally leave my back door wide open and Cerys would not step foot out it. She hates the outdoors. Punkin's stuck his nose out a few times, but it holds no real interest for him and Misha - who was an abandoned cat that literally decided to move in with us and has lived an extensive part of her life as an in-out cat could not give a shit about going outside.

Needs are met - food, safety, security and entertainment - they're very happy.

But all of that is downright irrelevant. We are talking about an introduced species that wreaks unimaginable ecological damage if left to its own devices. Why the almighty fuck would a cat's fee-fees override that? Not to mention the cat safety issues. I mean i'm sure punkin would be 'happier' with his balls intact merrily raping and impregnating his sister and mother but that shit ain't happening either.

[–] plant_based_monero@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I mean even if they would rather be outside, they live longer inside, they are healthier and they would have better deads

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We’ve selected for traits that make some of them only really suitable at being indoor companions or mouse hunters.

Hairless cats for just one instance.

These aren’t wild animals.

Both domesticated and feral cats — like the one pictured above in New York — pose a threat to Australia's biodiversity, experts say.

I know what they meant by this, but I still find it amusing that a cat in New York could pose a threat to Australia's biodiversity.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Indoor cat owner here. I will say I think if you really want your cats to be outdoors you can buy special collars that will prevent them from killing birds. I did 15 minutes of research so this might not be entirely correct but it appears that putting a bell on them is not enough. It needs to be a special collar specifically designed to prevent them from killing birds.

Source: https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/general-science/should-i-attach-bell-my-cats-collar

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Won't stop them from getting themselves run over, or catching FIV or FeLV, or getting mauled by my German shepherd when they hop into my backyard. PLEASE just keep them inside.

[–] c0m47053@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe you should keep your German shepherd indoors to stop it mauling other creatures?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dogs need to go outside. Cats don't. My dogs stay on my property, your cats don't stay on yours. I don't want to bury any more cats, so please just keep them inside.

[–] makatwork@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

You sound just as bad as the cat owners