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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If the date format is not YYYY-MM-DD it can fuck right off.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ISO 8601. Unironically the only ISO number I also remember.

[–] mattaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I also remember as PHP programming language still won't do it with this function: DateTimeInterface::ISO8601 DATE_ISO8601 https://www.php.net/manual/en/class.datetimeinterface.php#datetime.constants.iso8601

You need the DateTimeInterface::ISO8601_EXPANDED which can actually accept non compliant strings too.

PHP - wherever you see an intuitive solution it's wrong or has important caveats.

[–] Boreal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite thing about this date format is using it in file names. Sorting the files by name also sorts them by date.

Meeting notes 2023-06-29.txt Meeting notes 2023-06-30.txt Meeting notes 2023-07-01.txt

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Thi is the way.

[–] two_wheel2@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Everything is right about it:

  • Lexographic sort
  • Unambiguous months and days
  • Acceptable on any document of record (lab, legal, medical, personal)
  • Readable by nearly any culture (even us Americans)
[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

for storing dates it's awesome, for displaying dates it's time to teach your programmer how to format shit for humans.

[–] jjnjjlr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't even comprehend how dumb this image is.

[–] FlagonOfMe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Doesn't that make you dumber than the image?

[–] Ixoid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I love the mental gymnastics which have gone into the making of this infographic. Gold!

[–] glarf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Now this is the kind of shitposting I can get behind.

[–] ubik@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I thought this post was funny until I read the comments.

[–] mcmxci@mimiclem.me 1 points 2 years ago

This is cursed. I love it

[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Base 12" is nice because it is easy to divide into halves, quarters, thirds as whole numbers. The rest is a bit of a mess though, I guess.

[–] emhl@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Base12 Units would be much more useful if we used Base12 numbers

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks! I hate it.

But in all honesty, this is almost like being inside a Canadian's brain. I have to translate back and forth at work all the time, and even cooking involves converting things back and forth. I have no idea how many drams to a gallon, so I'll convert ounces to mL, then scale as necessary, and then convert back to US customary because the measuring cups and spoons are labelled in American.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same, as a Canadian I wish we just had everything in metric instead of 70% of things. If systems of units were money, metric would be paying with dollars and cents, while imperial is paying with sheep and bars of gold.

[–] ciapatri@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also hate that we are loosey goosey with date formats. What day is 07/08/23??? I hate that the US uses MM/DD/YY format but at least they are consistent about it.

[–] alongwaysgone@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That's either July 8, or August 7th. Depending on... Well. What whoever was writing it meant 😁

[–] lynx@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like that every bar has a different scaling.

[–] surfcocktailsynth@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's an imperial log scale

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How long do you have to sit on the toilet to produce one of those imperial logs?

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You have to NOT sit on the toilet for 3 days

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

US date/time is actually closer to the ideal notation if you consider that for the majority of date references you don't need the year, so July 4th at 12:45:59 actually makes sense and denotes time from most to least significant digit. If you just shift the year to the front, you have an ideal naming convention and no confusion in identifying month and day.

In European, the date goes from least significant to most significant digits for the year and most to least significant for the time. For all the valid arguments on the side of the metric system vs imperial, if you ever want to shut the argument down for date formatting just ask why they don't keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just ask why they don't keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.

By that logic, that time should be written as 45:59:12 in Imperial.

For consistency.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

:) fair point...I do admit that MDY is dumb, my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US. The fact that our next step is MDY instead of YMD loses all the credibility, and Minute:Second:Hour is a funny and well deserved mockery of that.

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US

Sometimes.

Sometimes it isn't.

Like when people say "4th of July" instead of 7/4.

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

True, but that seems mostly limited to special cases, almost like Cinco de Mayo... It's referring to a celebration more that a date, especially since it's even rarer to say 'The 4th of July, 2023'

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I fucking love converting shit into imperial. It makes lots of fucking sence.

[–] Djeece@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

I'd even say it fucking makes cense!

[–] quickpen@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I actually agree that the metric system has nice round numbers, but this graphic is a hilarious rebuttal to the first one that just draws pictures to make their preferred system look like it fits into the pretty pictures.

Two can play at that game, lol.

[–] Poiar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Eh.. The graph shows

"Inches in 8.33 feet", and those 3's will go on forever like 8.333333333333..

Its clearly meant to be a shitpost.

[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah. Because 100 being the temperature of a random woman measured during her menstrual cycle totally makes sense.

[–] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Ey! It was the blood temperature of a horse before that, okay?! So it's not as if there were no improvements made at all! /s

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't Americans normally say "4th of July"?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"The 4th of May be with you"

[–] lemme@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

You are joking, right? Or ha e you actually fallen for the bogus infographic?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm happy with metric generally speaking - except for Celsius when talking about ambient temperature. I will die on that hill. Freezing/boiling point of water is a ridiculous point of reference for temperature as experienced by humans.

Fahrenheit: 0 = really cold; 100 = really hot

Celsius: -17.778 = really cold; 38.333 = really hot

Not to mention that the Celsius grading is too big requiring use of tenths when discussing weather and setting a thermostat...

[–] FreeFacts@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What? I have never ever had a discussion in my life about tenths of celsius when discussing weather or thermostat. Nobody does that. The units are small enough to be used in majors.

Freezing is excellent point of reference when you think about what effects it has on our lives. When water freezes, roads get frozen. When water freezes, pipes might blow up. When temperature reaches 0 Fahrenheit, nothing happens. Everything is same as 1 fahrenheit, or -1 fahrenheit. Nothing has changed, it is completely arbitrary.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I actually like fahrenheit for weather. 0 is really fucking cold, 100 is really fucking hot.

[–] Michal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Both are confusing. Let's use colours instead:

Red = hot, wear shorts and a t shirt

Blue = cold, grab a jacket

Pretty intuitive without any prior knowledge.

[–] IthronMorn@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plus Fahrenheit gives you more increments of degrees within a given range.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Ever heard of decimals?