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Iβm fine with it, but itβs cryptic and a deal breaker for many.
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Iβm fine with it, but itβs cryptic and a deal breaker for many.
Put me in the crowd that would jump to Linux rather than Windows 11 but my sw (Affinity Apps) donβt work on it.
Most of the other apps needed work on it. I just donβt need all the BS Microsoft push for my work machine.
Edit: Use Linux desktop on other machines.
Tbh most of the time Iβm using my Wintendo, but Linux is better imo for dev. PyCharm is a nice IDE, and all the Linux tools I love like vim are there and fully functional.
Gave up because of hardware issues. Laptops had fan problems with it on, the grub wouldn't install right, a lot of the good distros would show up as black before or after installation. My latest attempt with a decade old iMac made the screen die after less than half an hour upon each reboot. Most of these computers should work very well with Linux but they never did for me. Back then it was a matter of just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
My latest attempt with a decade old iMac made the screen die after less than half an hour upon each reboot.
My favorite part about the internet is when someone else somehow has the exact same completely obscure issue that I've had
Tried years and years ago and gave up. Was lazy, used to work on Windows servers at work and I was an Admin and didn't want to relearn a bunch of similar but different stuff. That was my mistake.
Tried again and some Distros broke stuff for me. Issue was that I did have to pick up another learning curve, so I just got to it.
Learned lots and then picked different Distros for different needs and computers. Daily drivers, I pick only solid, yet lean Distros, little tinkering and they have worked almost flawlessly for years on end. On some other machines, I dump stuff to tinker and learn some more, might break something but nothing is lost. If I break something on those, don't care. Now I run a server for fun with tons Apps for partner and I and all machines are on Linux. My TV runs off a small PC, too. No Google, or Apple, no ads on anything and server costs are dirt cheap. It would cost me hundreds upon hundreds a year to pay for 3rd party services for the same.
There are no shortcuts and in a way I wished I had stuck with it back then. But, I am happy where I am now.
I loved Linux at work when I had a sysadmin. Shit worked great. At home I started using Linux and despite some driver issues, it was mostly good. Then I started working for myself (so no more sysadmin). Some Linux update totally screwed up my computer and I lost a lot of work. It also became too much work to try and configure the apps that I needed to use for work. Switched to windows and it's been pretty smooth sailing. Still boot up Linux now and again for this or that, but I don't trust it enough as a daily driver for my needs.
The first time I gave up was basically just too much back and forth with Windows. Wine was still not there yet and Proton wasn't even a thing yet though.
I've used it a lot on laptops still, but haven't gone to a desktop mainly because friends still like to bounce between games that I have to worry if my system will even support (for anti-cheat reasons not for normal compatibility reasons)
Currently using on steam deck and it's great, am planning for next PC because it feels like too much work to do on a current one when everything is already working the way I want it to.
Who gave up?
I love Linux. But I got so exasperated with system updates breaking X-Windows and dropping me into the console with no clue what to do, for some time I intentionally deferred the updates.
I wanted a stable daily driver, so in 2015 I switched from Linux to ChromeOS. Now I'm back to Linux with the Crostini container of ChromeOS and Raspberry Pi OS on a Raspberry Pi 400.
That's never happened to me in at least ten years (and that's with nVidia gpus). What kind of exotic setup did you run?
I see posts like this all the time, I've had it happen once when I was running PopOS years ago and it was an Nvidia issue. Usually it's older Nvidia cards, I've never had an issue with newer cards
I hadn't learned enough about how to use it back then.
I've been having this weird issue with wifi where it will just switch itself off (shown in NetworkManager as "no available connections") and not allow me to restart the OS normally. It's like the driver is crashing or something. Hardware isn't the issue, otherwise it would have happened on Windows. Drivers can be an issue, as NVIDIA users know too well. Games can be a bit choppy on Linux if you use ray-tracing, probably due to drivers as well as the intermediary processes for getting games to work like DXVK. This was my experience with Cyberpunk 2077. Game modding can be an issue due to .NET not being fully there yet, especially if you have games that are glitchy and require stability mods for a good experience. (e.g. any Bethesda game that exists.)
The only thing keeping me from full-timing Windows is the fact that Windows 11 just plain sucks. I feel like I have to use it, rather than want to use it. Compared to even a bog-standard KDE setup, the Windows experience is miserable. As for Mac, I have a Hackintosh but Apple really loves to render everything on the GPU side and it's chugging my ol' GPU. Maybe I need to go get an M-series MacBook this year.
there were some kernel issues with numerous WiFi cards prior to linux 6.6.6 (hehe), make sure to update
For me, a few things keep me from sticking with it. The community used to be a problem but it's not as bad as it used to be. Seeking help online regarding anything related to network services are still rife with the "git gooder" useless fucks. Two months ago I was told, "you shouldn't be doing this if you need a guide." I was trying to deploy a Lemmy instance... Using the guide provided by Lemmy devs... That they recommended for beginners... FML with a curling iron...
Another big one for me is access to solutions. I have never encountered a problem with windows that I couldn't find a solution or at least an explanation for. But I frequently find issues with linux that I am apparently the first to ever experience.
And lastly, it seems like not using a terminal at all to do completely normal things is even remotely possible. Powershell allows all kinds of things that would be otherwise burdensome or impossible, but none of those are required for use. On the flip side, it feels like everything I want to do in Linux tends to require me to copypasta a terminal command, open the terminal, and run. Why? Why is there no "control panel" style settings tools? Why is every setting scattered to the .conf fucking wind? My kingdom for a distro that I don't have to nano my fucking way through.
Software compatibility??? That is a problem I would love to have when it comes to trying to switch OSs. That would mean that everything else is already working and only MS products are acting up. Also... who switches to Linux but still requires MS Office??? Why does this person exist? Lol
Anyway. Haven't tried the switch in a few years and it seems like things have changed a lot in that time comparatively to the preceding years, so I may be a bit out of touch. But that's why I quit last time. I would love to not need windows ever again. But my worst windows day is still better than my best Linux day.
Because it's not Windows and it's not MacOS. Yes, it's an operating system, but what people are comparing against are their expectations. I dont expect a program that's not written or designed for my particular distribution or operating system to work. Now, in some cases it turns out that it does and sometimes it works better then under Microsoft, but that shouldn't be your expectation. The software that is made for it runs as expected.
Working hardware is usually step one. If your hardware isn't supported then of course you're in for a rough ride.