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Some friends I just can’t shake

hard enough

around the neck

with a firm grip

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 103 points 9 months ago

Somebody that's actively trying to end my existence isn't a friend.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

I love that they excuse their vote as anything else.

I just want a tax cut. (and don't care about the republic or my friends' lives)

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Aw come on... they're not trying to end your existence. They just don't want to be alive or exist.

Okay wait actually some DO want to end your existence directly. But most wished if you just died.

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[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 66 points 9 months ago

I'd be fine with them if they weren't constantly shoving it in our faces. Think about the children!

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

And then they put that stuff in classrooms! How disgusting

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 9 months ago

It's ok not tolerating intolerant people.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I have [a] conservative family.

To be conservative in 2024, you have to dismiss that some people in our community are miserable and every day we leave them to their fate is heinous.

In the US, a failure to vote [against] any given Republican (by voting [for] an opposing democrat) is another step towards autocracy and genocide. Every Republican in office is a force towards the Heritage Foundation's 2025 project, by which they will unmake the meager democratic features and civil rights that remain in the US.

Conservatives believe, by the natural extrapolation of their positions and behavior, I have no right to exist. (Curiously, this includes my own father, who simultaneously facilitates political efforts seeking out my extinction while expressing a dissonant interest in my well-being. He doesn't dare connect the two in his mind.)

[-] Dethedrus@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I'm so terribly sorry.

You both deserve to exist and most likely rock out loud :)

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 44 points 9 months ago

The point is to not be tolerant of intolerance...

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

I have some Friends which are more Conservative then me but we get along pretty well. We even talk about politics. It's sometimes pretty interesting to see another point of view and to understand where they coming from.

(For clarification European conservative not American conservative)

[-] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

These people are what you call adults.

[-] neptune@dmv.social 33 points 9 months ago

A conservative you are guilted into seeing occasionally? We call that family

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

The paradox of tolerance says if we tolerate intolerance, then intolerance will dominate. Or something.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

The social contract solution is pretty solid. If you are intolerant of other people first, you lose protection of the contract and others will be intolerant of you without penalty.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 24 points 9 months ago

I don't have conservative friends because I'm not friends with toxic people. I wish them ~~well~~ all dead

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't care what you believe or what direction you lean politically. I won't be friends with jerkoffs and assholes.

That being said, all my friends are left-leaning. 🤷‍♂️

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

I don't agree with the fascist lifestyle. I think they should keep it behind closed doors. On another planet. Not this one.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

The primary difference is, I can throw a party, I can have my trans friends gay friends Muslim friends black friends, and Latino friends All in the same room. Then I can leave the room to go take care of something and not have to worry that any one person in the room is going to say "you people".

To be very honest I do have some somewhat conservative friends, They mostly worry that legislation will even the playing field and all their lifelong hard work will be for nothing. Which is still a pretty shitty outlook but I can understand it. They spent 10 years of their life putting our kids through college and all of a sudden colleges free.

[-] Glitchington@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

"I had to suffer, so everyone else should too." is NOT a valid reason to push back against progress.

[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Yep. Falls into the "Fuck you I got mine" category.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

shifts uncomfortably

Nope! I know what conservatives want and what they stand for, when I tell them to fuck off it's with pride and volume. Conservative isn't a race, a color, a religion or a sexuality. It's not beyond your control. It's a series of moral decisions made by a fully competent adult who can absolutely be held responsible for what they believe and what they try to do with their power in the world.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 15 points 9 months ago

Wow, sometimes I invoke Poe's law when people say no one here gets a joke, but like what the hell happens here

It's clearly just joking mirroring. Of course we don't want intolerant people in our discourse.

[-] rastro@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

I have conservative friends. Almost all of them oppose Trump. The point you think you’re making isn’t as clear as you think. The narrative of someone using the “I’m a conservative and I’m being silenced/discriminated” isn’t coming from actual conservatives but rather from MAGA and white nationalist clowns pushing a hateful, un-Christian, not actually classic conservative agenda.

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[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

I have friends

OK you don't have to brag.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 13 points 9 months ago

I have a couple of conservative friends. We just don't talk about politics or the issues of the day. Surprisingly it's not that hard.

[-] KredeSeraf@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

You know, there's so many people I have tried this with. They just won't stop bringing it up even when it is completely unrelated to what we're doing. One of them told me he feels smart because when that comes up I usually walk away to avoid the endless drama and he took that to mean that his position and opinions had so confounded me that leaving was my only way to respond.

Stuff like "yeah I think religion should be enshrined in the Constitution and everyone should have to live by our rules" and "if women don't want to have kids they should keep their legs closed".

Like, even if I thought engaging had any chance of working it's just such braindead regurgitated Fox talking points that I wouldn't engage anyway. Just waiting for these people to get everything they want and suffer for it.

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[-] cygon@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You must have better friends than I.

Every conservative I know or knew is walking around with pent-up anger, seemingly ready explode over whatever their handlers in the media have railed them up against that day. I guess that is what keeps them active at the ballot box and prevents them from taking a step back, calming down, thinking and questioning the narrative. Either way, it became pretty much impossible to have any kind of outing with these people present.

It's gotten really tiresome to even look for common ground anymore. Things that were fine just yesterday suddenly make them foam at the mouth. And lately, the persecution complex, too.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You don't choose sexual orientation, race, nationality, body you're born into.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Conservatism is a choice! And it's arguably the wrong one

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[-] Dra@lemmy.zip 12 points 9 months ago

Isn't Islam technically Conservative? I'm confused

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[-] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Yyeap that is how it feels to be a conservative today..... Cant say you are a conservative cause people will call you "rasist" "bigot" "sexist" "transphobic" and so on. Just because you think a 9 month old baby should have the same rights as a newborn. Or because you think we should have rules (and we do) behind how people cross the border. Or because you think people should pay money back if they barrow money.

Just some thoughts that will get you banned from social media.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Or because you think people should pay money back if they barrow money.

Except of course PPP loans. Student loans for sure need to be paid back, but the free money the wealthy got from the gubermint is fine.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago

If people are calling you racist, bigoted, sexist, and transphobic simply because you identify as a conservative, you should probably reevaluate your positions and if you truly identify with conservative values.

Nobody is aborting 9 month old fetuses outside of exceptional medical emergencies, and denying women bodily autonomy is incredibly authoritarian.

Nobody thinks there shouldn't be any rules about crossing borders, even the fringe people that are for open borders. What people disagree with is intentionally drowning people via razorwire as a deterrent, and instead want an easier path to citizenship.

Everyone thinks paying debts is a good thing, but may disagree on what constitutes a faulty, predatory system of debt that ought to be abolished in the first place, like medical debt and school debt.

The thoughts you listed alone will not get you banned from social media (outside of specific communities for specific purposes), what would is how you express those views, which can in fact be sexist, bigoted, or perhaps even racist or transphobic.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 9 months ago

Nobody is aborting 9 month old fetuses outside of exceptional medical emergencies, and denying women bodily autonomy is incredibly authoritarian.

Nobody is aborting 9-month-old fetuses at all. Unless that fetus is already dead or dying, 9 months is well past the point of viability.

24 weeks (5 months and some change) is when a fetus could viably survive outside the womb with medical intervention. 9 months is at the point of being fully developed, even if it is a couple weeks premature.

Almost all abortions happen at 10 weeks or less, well before the point of viability. Almost no abortions happen after 24 weeks. Definitely none happening at 9 months.

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[-] Girru00@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What 9 month old baby has less rights than a newborn? Edit: or vice versa.

[-] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago

I'm gonna charitably guess he means a unborn baby at nine months, but... Does he think those are aborted or some?

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