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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (12 children)

There's a word for software that does actions without the user's permission or knowledge.

That word is MALWARE

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago

I'd be shocked if Edge installed itself and take over Firefox data in my linux install. Impressed, but also very shocked.

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Imagine using Chrome in 2024.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I'm using Firefox.

I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It's small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

There's a push on unifying browsers.

I've been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it's getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was about to say this. I never find any websites that doesnt work with Firefox so I'm genuinely curious.

I bet it's their ad blocker, or they have set their Firefox settings to the privacy level that says "this will break some web sites".

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

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[–] AlexTheAnnihilator@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

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[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

Not as much as Google though, so I've been feeling like it's been getting better and better, but it's just a comparative feeling.

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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 1 year ago

Sometimes those websites lied that they don't support Firefox. For example, google meet didn't support background blur on Firefox? Change the user agent to chrome and it suddenly worked!

As for simple stuff such as menu or elements not loading, it's usually the dev copy pasted outdated code/css that uses WebKit/Bink-specific prefix even though Firefox already support them if they removed the prefix. Nothing we can do about that except pestering the dev to fix it or overriding it yourself using some css overrides extension.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Firefox + uBlock Origin and I have no issues with any websites.

Which ones are you having issues with and what is happening?

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Laughs in Firefox.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Microsoft Edge is actually good, so I sure hope the team building it isn’t about to resort to more tricks to get Chrome users to use it.

Edge is good compared to IE which was a dumpster fire, and arguably about as bad as Chrome. Both are privacy nightmares and desire nothing more than to harvest your data for ad companies. I trust Google a hair more than I do Microsoft. I don't use Chrome. That should tell you something.

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[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Microsoft is the fucking worst with their trick questions and constant nagging.

They do this because they want you to use Edge which steals search results from other search engines.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Sell your soul to Microsoft!

YES, please

not now

Linux and Firefox gang rise up.

[–] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I only use it in a VM and only for Visual Studio which is only for one class. It does nothing outside of that class

My main OS is Linux Mint

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[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How to prevent this: don’t use Chrome.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case the problem is MS, they could (or already) do the same thing with Firefox.

So the real fix is not using Windows.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Even better tbh

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Or Windows.

[–] art@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the article: 'So I went to install the same Windows update on a laptop, which actually resulted in it failing and me having to do a system restore. Once the system restore...'

Who needs to continue reading the article before realizing the malware is Windows itself?

[–] stockRot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

So either Linux has effortless, painless updates that never break, or Linux is malware.

Which one is it?

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A lot of us could just stop using that garbage OS.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Problem is there's too much professional software that simply won't run on Linux, things you spend all day in and even if you can get it to run in a sandbox the experience sucks (because it's too resource intensive, otherwise it would get all SaaSy and force you into the cloud), like CAD software, 3D modeling tools, editing...

Monopolistic behavior is monopolistic behavior. MSFT needs a beatdown.

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes the switch is surprisingly seamless, though. Autodesk Maya has an official Linux version, Blender is more than competitive now. For photo and video editing, Krita has become the better Photoshop for me and DaVinci Resolve has a native Linux version as well, with the additional benefit of letting me completely avoid Adobe. The ex-Allegorithmic tools also have Linux support and can be bought on Steam even.

On the other side, I haven't had much success running Clip Studio Paint or Daz 3D and a VM is rather frustrating to use (the lag between pen and screen just feels weird).

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[–] shitwolves@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago

Who cares? Stop using Chrome.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I would genuinely like to see Edge open all 848 tabs I have hoarded over 61 Chrome windows. I wonder if it could do it faster than Chrome manages. After rebooting, Chrome reopens, with all my tabs intact, in about 5 minutes. Provided a sanitary shutdown, that is. It takes more like 15 minutes for it to become responsive again after a (rare) crash.

Clearly I have lost control of my life.

And yes, before you get on my case, I am working on switching back to Firefox after using Chrome for the last decade. It just takes a long time to pare down all these tabs.

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Nice. So user got auto switched from Google's chromium to Microsoft's chromium? That's almost just a skin. More worried about it stealing Firefoxs's tabs. Specially since I like my addons.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does the user have a gpo that enables the setting? That's what it sounds like to me considering:

I haven’t been able to replicate the behavior on other PCs, but a number of X users replied to my post about this saying they have experienced the same thing in the past.

I'm also not clear if they are saying when they checked the setting was disabled, or if they're saying it was enabled and they don't recall setting it.

Of the 100s (possibly 1000s) of complaints I have about Windows, and Microsoft in general, some dude whose not sure how Edge imported settings is pretty far down on my list. Especially when the claim doesn't come with a before after screenshot, or the ability to reproduce it.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it is due to policy, Edge should show expected setting greyed out and display message along the lines "your organization is managing this setting".

This sounds like some niche bug.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So awful that they have to steal sessions now.

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