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[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

There's a word for software that does actions without the user's permission or knowledge.

That word is MALWARE

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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 30 points 9 months ago

I'd be shocked if Edge installed itself and take over Firefox data in my linux install. Impressed, but also very shocked.

[-] 58008@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

Imagine using Chrome in 2024.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I'm using Firefox.

I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It's small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

There's a push on unifying browsers.

I've been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it's getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was about to say this. I never find any websites that doesnt work with Firefox so I'm genuinely curious.

I bet it's their ad blocker, or they have set their Firefox settings to the privacy level that says "this will break some web sites".

[-] flying_gel@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

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[-] AlexTheAnnihilator@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

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[-] egerlach@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

Not as much as Google though, so I've been feeling like it's been getting better and better, but it's just a comparative feeling.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 9 months ago

Sometimes those websites lied that they don't support Firefox. For example, google meet didn't support background blur on Firefox? Change the user agent to chrome and it suddenly worked!

As for simple stuff such as menu or elements not loading, it's usually the dev copy pasted outdated code/css that uses WebKit/Bink-specific prefix even though Firefox already support them if they removed the prefix. Nothing we can do about that except pestering the dev to fix it or overriding it yourself using some css overrides extension.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Firefox + uBlock Origin and I have no issues with any websites.

Which ones are you having issues with and what is happening?

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[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Laughs in Firefox.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Microsoft Edge is actually good, so I sure hope the team building it isn’t about to resort to more tricks to get Chrome users to use it.

Edge is good compared to IE which was a dumpster fire, and arguably about as bad as Chrome. Both are privacy nightmares and desire nothing more than to harvest your data for ad companies. I trust Google a hair more than I do Microsoft. I don't use Chrome. That should tell you something.

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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Microsoft is the fucking worst with their trick questions and constant nagging.

They do this because they want you to use Edge which steals search results from other search engines.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

Sell your soul to Microsoft!

YES, please

not now

Linux and Firefox gang rise up.

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I only use it in a VM and only for Visual Studio which is only for one class. It does nothing outside of that class

My main OS is Linux Mint

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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

How to prevent this: don’t use Chrome.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

In this case the problem is MS, they could (or already) do the same thing with Firefox.

So the real fix is not using Windows.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

Even better tbh

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Or Windows.

[-] art@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
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[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

From the article: 'So I went to install the same Windows update on a laptop, which actually resulted in it failing and me having to do a system restore. Once the system restore...'

Who needs to continue reading the article before realizing the malware is Windows itself?

[-] stockRot@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So either Linux has effortless, painless updates that never break, or Linux is malware.

Which one is it?

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

🥸one can argue that only most distros are malware under this definition

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

A lot of us could just stop using that garbage OS.

[-] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Problem is there's too much professional software that simply won't run on Linux, things you spend all day in and even if you can get it to run in a sandbox the experience sucks (because it's too resource intensive, otherwise it would get all SaaSy and force you into the cloud), like CAD software, 3D modeling tools, editing...

Monopolistic behavior is monopolistic behavior. MSFT needs a beatdown.

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[-] shitwolves@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 9 months ago

Who cares? Stop using Chrome.

[-] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I would genuinely like to see Edge open all 848 tabs I have hoarded over 61 Chrome windows. I wonder if it could do it faster than Chrome manages. After rebooting, Chrome reopens, with all my tabs intact, in about 5 minutes. Provided a sanitary shutdown, that is. It takes more like 15 minutes for it to become responsive again after a (rare) crash.

Clearly I have lost control of my life.

And yes, before you get on my case, I am working on switching back to Firefox after using Chrome for the last decade. It just takes a long time to pare down all these tabs.

[-] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I wonder if it could do it faster than Chrome manages.

It would probably be the same time, Edge is just Microsoft Chrome after all.

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[-] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Nice. So user got auto switched from Google's chromium to Microsoft's chromium? That's almost just a skin. More worried about it stealing Firefoxs's tabs. Specially since I like my addons.

[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Does the user have a gpo that enables the setting? That's what it sounds like to me considering:

I haven’t been able to replicate the behavior on other PCs, but a number of X users replied to my post about this saying they have experienced the same thing in the past.

I'm also not clear if they are saying when they checked the setting was disabled, or if they're saying it was enabled and they don't recall setting it.

Of the 100s (possibly 1000s) of complaints I have about Windows, and Microsoft in general, some dude whose not sure how Edge imported settings is pretty far down on my list. Especially when the claim doesn't come with a before after screenshot, or the ability to reproduce it.

[-] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

If it is due to policy, Edge should show expected setting greyed out and display message along the lines "your organization is managing this setting".

This sounds like some niche bug.

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[-] Desistance@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

So awful that they have to steal sessions now.

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