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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Disney on Thursday appealed a judge’s dismissal of its free speech lawsuit over what it described as Gov. Ron DeSantis’ retaliatory takeover of Walt Disney World’s governing district, as the Florida governor separately called any appeal “a mistake.”

“They were wrong and we were right,” DeSantis said at a news conference in Jacksonville a day after the ruling. “They should move on.”

Disney filed a notice of appeal over Wednesday’s ruling by a federal judge in Tallahassee, saying that it would set a dangerous precedent if left unchallenged by giving states the green light to weaponize their powers to punish opposing viewpoints. A separate lawsuit over who controls the district also is still pending in state court in Orlando.

Disney had argued that legislation signed by DeSantis and passed by the Republican-controlled Legislature transferring control of the Disney World governing district from Disney supporters to DeSantis appointees was in retaliation for the company publicly opposing the state’s “Don’t Say Gay” law. The 2022 law banned classroom lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity in early grades and was championed by DeSantis, who had used Disney as a punching bag in speeches on the campaign trail until he recently suspended his campaign for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago

“They were wrong and we were right,” DeSantis said

I guess that does about sum up the totality of their logic.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 50 points 9 months ago

They aren't going to move on, they are going to appeal this into Federal court, which is where DeSantis goes to lose & fan his humiliation kink.

The Mouse is going to end DeSantis' political career, bet.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 17 points 9 months ago

dudes been done

I think it started with those cute boots

[-] ____@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago

The boots were cute, but would have been far more so on a stripper. Just didn’t mesh with his style imho.

Or lack of style in this case.

[-] ____@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago

The humil kink explains the boots, and I guess even the bizarre “pudding fingers” thing.

Certainly explains some of the ridiculous things he says, as well.

Seems to be a commonality among that wing of the GOP.

Not judging ofc, we all dig whatever we dig. But maybe we should separate kink and politics, preferably with zero intersection between them. The MFL folks who enjoyed playing with another woman are totally justified in doing so - it’s the hypocrisy of it all that I have trouble with.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

Here's hoping the appeals court isn't full of slack-jawed Trump appointees.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

Of the 12 judges currently on the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals 1 was appointed by GW Bush, 1 by Clinton, 3 by Obama, 6 by Trump, and 1 by Biden. So only half filled with slack-jawed Trump appointees.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago

Jesus we're going to be dealing with the fallout for an entire generation, aren't we?

[-] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Yes. The Judiciary is quite compromised thanks to electing that idiot and will be for years. I take solace knowing that some people found Hillary unlikeable, because that was a rational basis to ignore her ample experience and demonstrated skill in governance.

/s because JFC this timeline

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

We should all blame Hillary for this shit, too. She ran a shitty campaign and made ridiculously short-sighted political moves. I voted for her, but I was mad about it because it was like watching a slow motion train wreck from inside the train.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

There are very few candidates who could have lost against Trump but the Democratic Party sure ran one.

[-] ____@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago

I’d have taken her gladly, over TFG, but you are abs not wrong. She was never going to be another Bill - a lot of his appeal in campaigning was that he felt approachable even on TV.

She never had that skill, and didn’t seem capable of developing it.

Can relate, lots of my work and face to face interactions are basically by rote - I’ve honed the scripts over the years to get a thin veneer of spontaneity and make it believable rather than robotic, but…. That works because I lean waaaay into it. Hillary feels scripted and robotic.

Don’t ask me how we rejected her, but our friends across the pond elected the May-Bot tho. While their politics are diametrically opposite, Hillary and Theresa are very similar personalities - or lack thereof.

FWIW, if anyone is aware of a book that meaningfully compares the two, I’d love to know about it. The handful of serious authors who approach UK political bios that I’m aware of don’t do so in a comparative way.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It wasn't just electing Trump, let's not forget McConnell and the other GOP goons obstructing Obama's judge appointments and crippling the judiciary until they had "their guy" (whoever with an R) in office to fill the positions. Trump wouldn't have the outsized appointments if not for that groundwork.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

And yet all the Trump judges got appointed.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

For those who don’t know, search “McConnell nuclear option” to learn the depravity these twisted twits sank to to pack the courts like this.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Its not just him, those judges were confirmed by the legislature. Putting the entire blame solely on his shoulders let's them off the hook.

They are just as much to blame as him.

[-] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Absolutely.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

It's not just him, it is McConnell (and friends) who held all those seats open. They were held open for as long as it would take to get a Republican in office, at least not a black person, but really they were ready to cripple the whole branch of government for years if need be.

(Of course the Democrats basically went "yeah that's fine we're not going to do anything about it".)

[-] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I think that's due to the inexplicable resilience of the Democrats belief that there is any shame or principle remaining in current Republican politics. They literally purged a Cheney (!) for not being sufficiently right wing.

It seems to finally be sinking in that precedent and tradition and compromise simply do not matter to the GOP.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

There comes a point where ignorance, willful or not, is actually worse than the alternatives...

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Yes. As we’ve been screaming for eight years. The fuckededness is endemic and somewhat recursive.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

At least, a generation is usually defined as either 20 or 25 years (4-5 generations per century) and many of his lifetime appointments still have at least 25 years left.
Generations that haven't even been born yet will be feeling the ramifications of Trump well into their adulthood.
He was in office for 4 years and he's set us back at least half a century.

[-] Masterblaster@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

now you're catching on

[-] athos77@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

But cases aren't usually heard by the full appeals court, usually just a subsection of them.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Here hoping everyone involved wastes a shit ton of money...

There's no "good guys" in this fight

[-] Masterblaster@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

thank you. people lose sight of the finish line over this dumb shit. there's no fucking way i'm going to cheer on a corporation's right to a feudal estate company town. fuck them all. nuke florida and move on.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

A trump judge threw it out claiming they had no standing because the commission had formed. This is like saying that you don't have standing when someone public domains your car because it's theirs now. It shows you what kind of people he put on the bench. He's probably never heard of a chilling effect.

[-] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 30 points 9 months ago

They are moving on....to Federal court!

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

This . . . this was always a federal action in federal court.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago

Disney's Imagineers probably already have plans to lift-and-shift the entire operation somewhere less hostile.

And it'll happen overnight. One day Disney World is in Florida, the next day it's on a floating island off the coast. Imagineers are good at stuff like that.

[-] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 14 points 9 months ago

And it'll happen overnight. One day Disney World is in Florida, the next day it's on a floating island off the coast.

Until the very end of that my brain was definitely going in a "BioShock Infinite Columbia escapes into the clouds" direction.

[-] TommySalami@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They didn't specify it would be floating in the water...

[-] ____@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago

Can’t think of a lot of onshore places that would fit the bill in terms of weather and political climate but…

Remember Sealand? To date we’ve mostly built offshore platforms for the sake of fossil fuels, but I’m not aware of a practical reason they couldn’t just build what amounts to a drilling platform, without the drilling and at a meaningful scale.

Or, screw it, international waters on the seafloor - who’s going to stop them from declaring independence? They even foreshadowed it with Ariel.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

The tech Disney's been using for TV shows, plus their new floor technology, could be used to turn old malls into mini theme parks.

Instead of one Disney World in one place, they could have a hundred of them scattered across the country.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

1st amendment violations in response to 1st amendment violations, stay classy DeSatan

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago

You'll always lose when the judges are politicians too.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Lmao. He fucked around with the Mouse and is in the process of finding out that politicians don't run this country: lawyers do.

[-] ____@infosec.pub 10 points 9 months ago

DeSantis should move on from existence.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

They say it will allow states to weaponize their powers to silence viewpoints they don’t like as if that wasn’t the point of the ruling. This is exactly what conservatives want.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

I for one would love it if Disney would move on, from Florida.

Then let's see what Ronda says as his state's tax income goes down the toilet.

[-] autotldr 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ron DeSantis’ retaliatory takeover of Walt Disney World’s governing district, as the Florida governor separately called any appeal “a mistake.”

Disney filed a notice of appeal over Wednesday’s ruling by a federal judge in Tallahassee, saying that it would set a dangerous precedent if left unchallenged by giving states the green light to weaponize their powers to punish opposing viewpoints.

Winsor wrote that when a law on its face is constitutional, plaintiffs can’t make free speech claims challenging it because they believe lawmakers acted with unconstitutional motives.

Experts diverged on how successful an appeal by Disney will be, with some saying an important question raised by the decision will have to be addressed at the appellate court and others believing the dispute should have been resolved politically instead of litigated.

“I still think that they’ll be uncomfortable leaving in a loophole that basically says you can freely retaliate for speech through specifying a party via objective criteria rather than by name,” Schumer said of the appellate court.

The new DeSantis appointees claimed the “eleventh-hour deals” neutered their powers, and the district sued the company in state court in Orlando to have the contracts voided.


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[-] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

“I still think that they’ll be uncomfortable leaving in a loophole that basically says you can freely retaliate for speech through specifying a party via objective criteria rather than by name,” Schumer said of the appellate court.

This is the same kind of loophole that the Indiana Legislature is using to get around the State Constitution's prohibition against the State legislating individual local issues. Indiana's Constitution says, "The General Assembly shall not pass local or special laws regulating county and township business. So they write laws regulating "the consolidated city," of which Indianapolis is the only one. I really hope Disney prevails.

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