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[-] AcidOctopus@lemmy.ml 146 points 1 year ago

I only use it because there's no way I could convince my friends and family to move to anything else.

There's no point in switching to another app if I then literally couldn't communicate with the people I need to through it.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been using Beeper a month or two. They had a long waiting list, and initially it was subscription only, but they are working on smashing through the waiting list and have changed to a freemium model where you get it for free and (eventually) they will have extra features for subscribers.

Basically, it's one chat app that connects to lots of different chat services.

If you're technical, the app is a fork of Element, and the service uses matrix bridges to connect to different chat services, but it's all presented in a (somewhat) polished way. The wait list is because they are still struggling with scaling and quirks but if you're on Lemmy you're probably already well familiar with putting up with this.

It covers heaps of chat networks. Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Signal, Telegram, and more. It also will let you SMS (unlike Signal 😬).

You can also connect to Matrix rooms but you don't seem to be able to connect to an existing Matrix account (it uses a Beeper matrix account to connect).

It doesn't do video/audio calls so they recommend you leave the original app installed and disable message notifications (but leave on call notifications) if you use this.

[-] crystal@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

app is closed source :/

Looks cool though

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 year ago

Yep. But if you're keen on this stuff, you can self host matrix and the bridges and do it yourself. Their bridges are open source, just not their apps whose features are their business model.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 127 points 1 year ago

Wait until you hear how many people use facebook messenger.

[-] 7777AKA@lemm.ee 109 points 1 year ago
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[-] Asswaterpirate@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

I wish people would stop using the Crowder meme template.

[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago
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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 66 points 1 year ago

Eh, whatsapp isn't ideal and its owner is one of the big devils of today, but it's the only way to send and receive instant messages among billions of people. I despise it, but it's the only way I can contact people. Needless to say, they don't give a single flying fuck about privacy.

Whatsapp outages make people migrate to Telegram for 1-2 days at most, nobody ends up staying there. Signal? I've only ever met three other people in RL who have even heard of it, and I work in IT.

A more apt comparison would be to languages. Whatsapp is english: clunky, weird, full of nonsense, but it's what "everyone talks". Signal would probably be lojban or esperanto.

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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago

SMS is IE, Whatsapp is Chrome, and Signal is Firefox. Use Signal/Firefox.

[-] scoobford@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

I disagree. IE was incredibly proprietary, and SMS is at least an open standard.

IE is...idk Facebook messenger or Imessage or something.

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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 year ago

Chrome is the Internet Explorer of the browsers.

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[-] Stephbro@feddit.nl 45 points 1 year ago

Look, I hate Facebook just as much as the next guy. But I live in The Netherlands and it's the primary way I can contact literally everyone I know. So changing to another messaging app is hard here.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Steven Crowder is a garbage human and doesn't deserve a meme template

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[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 43 points 1 year ago

Fuck Steven Crowder and any meme based on his bullshit

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago

Steven Crowder is the wife abuser of the meme world.

[-] Joris@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Nah. SMS and iMessage are the IE of messaging. Unsafe and locked in.

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[-] progettarsi@feddit.it 36 points 1 year ago

signal and telegram are so much better, don't know why we can't get over that shit app

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[-] gunpachi 36 points 1 year ago

In some countries like India, people just assume that everyone uses whatsapp. It's gotten to the point where whatsapp has become the definition of messaging (for most people).

I don't see how Whatsapp is outdated to the point where one would compare it to IE, but I'll say whatsapp is more like Google Chrome than IE.

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[-] blueskiesoc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago
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[-] Amilo159@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Except it does nearly everything any other messaging app does, so there really is no need to force a switch. Unlike Internet Explorer, that used outdated rendering engine making it both slow and buggy, it was unsafe as it used ActiveX, didn't support ad-blockers it actually broke or didn't open most new website.

[-] to55@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago

WhatsApp seems very conservative with adding new features. I generally feel the features they do decide to add are all pretty useful. Telegram on the other hand doesn't ever seem to slow down with the new features. Many of them seem great, but just as many I would never use. I'm still wondering why Telegram won't introduce end-to-end encryption as a default.

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[-] iamak@infosec.pub 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope that the DMA gets passed in the EU. It'll (hopefully) break the monopoly worldwide

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Interoperability is a weird one though. Imagine WhatsApp can connect to Signal, and people use this feature. What would then be the point of using Signal, if WhatsApp gets the data after all?

(Signal has already announced not wanting to support this, I just used it as an example)

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[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 26 points 1 year ago

Its privacy is very questionable, but how is it outdated?

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[-] WiildFiire@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Op thinks only the USA exists apparently

[-] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 year ago

Can we further compress this meme template to the point that nobody could possibly tell it's Stephen Crowder in it

[-] jannis@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

here you go:

it's 5.6 kB webp

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[-] kaden_99@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I never have any problems Whatsapp. My messages get sent and I receive messages no problem.

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say Viber is worse (unbearably slow, has ads), and it's the most used messaging app in Ukraine which just sucks. (basically everyone has it)
people are slowly switching over to Telegram but it still has less then 50% market share...

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[-] WaterChi@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Whatsapp is still supported

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[-] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Matrix or Signal only for me. nobody uses Whatsapp here in the states, sms is simply insecure in every way, and telegram has very suspicious roots imo, along with a lack of e2ee and a terrible ui.

signal is the most secure option and matrix is federated making it the most "open" option.

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[-] June@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

I’ve somehow never used WhatsApp.

[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 17 points 1 year ago

You must not be from Europe or Brazil then

pls send help
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[-] criticon@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Someone has not used Line...

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