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[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

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[–] mokoshark69@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (8 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] mnstrspeed@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (15 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] clara@feddit.uk 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Also here is a blog post about how Google killed the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) using extend, embrace, extinguish.

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[–] graphite@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.

This should be common sense at this point.

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[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They tried to use the same excuse with their privacy policy for oculus. ie they can even watch the cameras if they want but they promise they won't.....

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[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They could have saved time by just saying "Everything"

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You do know that Lemmy counts as social media too, right?

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[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Lol not sure why people are surprised

[–] rivr@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, as people would expect seeing something else here.

Stay fucking away from facebook, meta and zuckerberg as much as you can people

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone know Meta's track record with data?

It's got to be great if they ask for all this /s

[–] NoughtE@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Let's not forget that they were fined $5 billion for deliberately misleading users about how their personal data was used in regard to the Cambridge Analytica scandal that effectively swayed over 200 elections all over the world, including both Brexit and Trump's 2016 presidential campaign.

Seriously, everyone seems to have forgotten about that shit and it's fucking insane.

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[–] Johnnynobody66@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Fuck off Zuck you fucking weirdo

[–] Mostly_Harmless@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Seems reasonable. Where do I put in my social security number and mother's maiden name?

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[–] harbo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Lol fuck that, I’ll stick with mastodon

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[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (4 children)

So, what do they not collect?

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] TicklishRocket@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That's a big nope from me lmao. Mastadon seems to have alot of the important accounts I follow from Twitter. Liking it so far, no algorithm playing with your feed, no corporate advertising (unless you subscribe to it), no blue checks spreading insane conspiracies.

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[–] moitoi@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm asking myself how people can accept these conditions. There is a huge work of education on privacy to be done.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (16 children)

There should be some sort of OS-level flag that appears before downloading to inform users along the lines of "This application requests access to more permissions than typical apps in this category do. Are you sure you wish to proceed?" Maybe with a link to an informational site about how apps can use your data and why protecting your privacy is important.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (12 children)

I've said it here before and I will say it again: Facebook and Google's entire approach to ads from data is based on an incorrect assumption of using enough data to build a profile on a person to predict what they are going to be interested in, when if you stop and think about it, it doesn't make any sense: people's needs will always change with circumstances at the time, ex. no amount of data in the world will help you predict whether I'll want a burger or Thai food for lunch tomorrow even if you do the digital equivalent of creeping on me outside my window and digging through my trash can. If you want to know what people want to buy, why not ask them?

Unfortunately, they've deluded themselves for more than a decade with the lie, so now the rest of the world also think that internet ads by them actually works.

I'm not going to rag too hard on Facebook here because most thing has been said by others already, but I will say that since literally every single one of their social media product took the same approach of maximize data to sell things, why is it that they are all losing people and their most successful place at selling things is actually Facebook Marketplace?

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[–] Ashrakx@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 years ago

Well, that's a big nope....

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

Don't allow Zuck and the billionaire anti-democracy tech bros into Federation.

[–] wabafee@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's missing something about first born son offering.

[–] ChonkyManul@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

This. We're all bashing on reddit but the reason why I went to reddit and then here was to take a break from meta-owned social media. They don't only take and sell our data, they also exploit small businesses and creatives by making them pay or post several times a day for "visibility" (translation: not to be shadowbanned) without providing anything back.

[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Data this app collects: yes.

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[–] chraqs@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This app will know whether or not you're circumcised

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

There's some fediverse Instagram clone instances known as pixelfied and plemora, check out fediverse.info

[–] Squiglet@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

When Instagram replacement on Fediverse? Fediverse also needs youtube replacement. Lets go all the way and hit these greedy mfers where it hurts. Unfortunetly my dev skills are poor, but I can offer moral support.

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[–] Alice@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

i don't know why anyone would want to go from something as bad as twitter to a Facebook owned twitter

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[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can anyone explain how these are different from the data Meta already collects from its Facebook, Instagram, and Messenger users? I've been slowly moving my online presence away from Meta products, but I feel like Threads isn't going to do much better than BlueSky, or Hive, or Post, or even our beloved Mastodon.

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[–] ShrimpsIsBugs@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I know meta is shit anyways, but what is the idea behind their Twitter competitor, like what is their selling point?

[–] iMeddles@infosec.pub 30 points 2 years ago (3 children)
  1. All your friends are there already
  2. We don't rate limit you like twitter

Sadly, that's likely all they need at the moment

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[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 13 points 2 years ago

They misspelled their service, should be: threats (to your privacy).

[–] PaalUltra@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

User: So how many permissions does your app need?

Threads: Yes!

[–] ReducedArc@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that.. all of them??? Lmao

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[–] techman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Financial Info, Identifiers, Sensitive Info... Woudn't it be easier just to give them my wallet and passport.

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[–] hydra@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Sadly people will still jump there. It will eventually overtake Mastodon in numbers because people are dependent on the convenience of walled gardens.

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