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Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war ‘supports second Trump term’ (www.theguardian.com)

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Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Think of it this way: Vote for Biden. Not because you support any war, because you support being able to harass the man for another four years. Don't let him leaving office leave you with regrets! Meanwhile, consider also voting specifically against tyranny.

Personally, I see a chance for change with Biden, or at least the foundations for positive change. All I see with Trump are giant steps backwards.

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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

When every side supports Israel, isn't it basically a non issue? I know you guys love to police the world, but maybe choose your politicians based on national, not global affairs

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[-] noxy@yiffit.net 15 points 8 months ago

I recommend listening to Medhi Hasan debate this exact issue on the most recent episode of the podcast "Pod Save America".

So much better of a discussion than can be had in fediverse comments.

The most powerful thing I took away from it is that there are people in Michigan, right now, who have had literal dozens of family members back in Gaza who are now dead just since Oct 7. That actual, real, current loss of lives is always going to be more powerful than " other guy worse". A lot of them may just not vote instead of casting their votes for their Democratic president who's done less than motherfucking Ronald fucking Reagan did in picking up the fucking phone and calling Netanyahu.

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

Some of these people are my coworkers, and libs from other States keep dumping on them for their dissent. Its disgraceful.

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[-] hamid@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago

It is a goddamn primary election and there isn't oppostion to Biden. Anyone voting uncommitted in the primary is having no actual effect on the general election as Biden will be the nominee no matter what the voters express.

Telling the voters they doth protest too much is electorally a shit strategy.

And shit electoral strategies on behalf of the Democratic Party is how we got Trump once and now likely twice.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

That's the truth in very stark terms.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The genocide will continue until morale improves

[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

Except this is about the primary. How is not voting for him in the primary matter? Honestly, the fact that the Democrat party in places like Florida just got rid of the primary so none of the challengers could be voted for is...dumb to me.

I might hate most of the other people running, since they're largely anti-vaccine pseudoscience conspiracy types, but people should still be allowed to vote in the primary.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I've wanted her to be my president since the first time I saw her speak. SOTU response or something iirc?

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