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[–] TheBurlapBandit@beehaw.org 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I see only one Man in that picture

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Correct. Which gets me thinking, what are the masculine and feminine terms for elves and dwarves? Elf man and elf woman, dwarf man and dwarf woman, sounds clunky...

Maybe elf and alf, and dwarf and dwoman

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Man" is gender neutral in this sense, encapsulating the full species, so "woman" should probably be prefixed with "human"... Or man man and man woman.

I don't really like the terms "man" and "woman" for elves and dwarves anyways. How about elf "maiden" and dwarf "so similar in voice and appearance you can't tell the difference"

[–] bricklove@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you want go old school, you can say wereman and woman. English used to do this but the were- prefix fell out of use aside from werewolves and their werecousins

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

That's way cooler, let's go back

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, I'm aware of that usage of the term "Man", the meme just got me wondering.

Perhaps there's a case to be made for elves and dwarves not even having a concept of gender - as you alluded to, dwarves don't differentiate physically, so they likely don't even acknowledge it at all. A dwarf is just a dwarf.

Elves, too, are highly androgynous, so it may be a similar thing with them. Sex is definitely a thing, though, since they reproduce just like humans do. But they certainly don't seem to have a social gender division.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surely Tolkien had thought of this.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

Imagine if we had this conversation while Tolkien was still alive. We could have just send him a letter and get a detailed response.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Gimly refers to dwarf females as women during his conversation with Eowyn.

[–] stephan262@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago

Well technically there's only one adult Man there... And one adult Elf, and an adult Dwarf.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I push this call button and by everything you care for on this good earth, we will fight our way out of this elevator! MEN OF THE WEST!

[–] ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Also the ones from princess bride?

Wait, are they the same characters personality wise?

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I would trust any trio from Robin's men in tights as well.