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I guess it’s self explanatory but I keep seeing all this stuff about how everyone is moving from Reddit to lemmy and I’m wondering if anyone knows if that’s really what’s happening. If you have numbers that’s even better.

Thanks!

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[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I joined right around the blackout, and the amount of content, especially content I enjoy has increased considerably. Everytime I open the app there are new things to read, which definitely wasn't the case a month ago.

So mass exodus, nah, even if every new user of Lemmy, Kbin and all the other alternatives left Reddit completely we're a single digit percentage at most. But mass adoption, definitely. With the smaller user base pre-apiexit its much easier to notice all the new contributing users.

[–] SCmSTR@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

It has been an absolute gift to be part of and watching that/this growth. Seeing posts on a new platform go from something like 10/day to the, now, probably, hundreds, if not thousands per day.

I remember in late May/early June this year (2023, when this place really came alive, for archival sake), seeing the posts on Reddit about the ACTUAL api changes, then that evolving into a bit of vocal protest, which surprisingly evolved into an ACTUAL protest with a lot more information why. It was the last straw for me. Everything the world has shit on me and my generation and lifetime, all of it from selfishness and ignorance and greed. Then musk bought Twitter and immediately drove it face first into the ground at high speed and got support by most of the worst demographics on the face of the planet - and I didn't even care about Twitter. But, a long-standing media giant, brought down by a billionaire simply because he had the money? It was if all of our intuitive fears about the world being awful just came true in real time, over, and over, and over, and over. The past fifteen years have been so bad, it's actually insane, and it's nuts to think that it can still be way way worse.

And then along came this dried out, greedy ass, shameless, two faced, wannabe psychopath who IDOLIZED Musk, Hoffman/spez, and just shits in the faces of everybody on Reddit that ever cared about anything. The very people trying to make the world a better place at least for a little while, pleading with him not to be THAT greedy and shitty. And he just spread open his wonderbread buttcheeks, stared us all in the eyes, looked away, smiled into a mirror, and blasted out what was left of his rotten, liquefied spine. RIP Aaron.

Everybody saw it coming, yet we were still all shocked at how blatantly greedy and manipulative every single event was. Now, he's just trying to wait it out and let it quiet down.

I'm still convinced this or an evolution of this will be Web3.0. The evolution past megacorps as a result of direct abuse of power, anti-competitive and other dark behaviors, anti privacy, ultra-rich maximizations of profits, and late stage capitalism. Decentralization and a reinvigoration and re-emphasis on integrity and quality, put truly into the hands of the users by stripping abilities of people like musk to literally capitalize on and destroy is hugely paramount in the next step. We all want it, the world needs it, and maybe the Fediverse is it. Maybe, maybe not. It feels like the right direction and I've had enough bullshit to know it.

[–] reclipse@lemdro.id 4 points 2 years ago

No, it's not a mass exodus.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The total number of users across all Lemmy instances is about half a million, from memory? There was a post about it not so long ago. A quick google's search shows Reddit has 55 million daily active users.

It's fuck all, at least for now.

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[–] anarchoplayworker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Oh and if people are also going elsewhere, where else are people going? (ie not lemmy)

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If not lemmy, they are probably going to Mastodon, as it is an open source Twitter alternative.

[–] anarchoplayworker@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That makes sense. Thanks!

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[–] HipPriest@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I think it's more of a mass giving up on Reddit. Some people might come here, some people might go elsewhere, some people might use it to digital detox.

But the 'mass' bit will probably be ex mods, power users and people who cared about the way Reddit was being run - a sizeable number but definitely not a majority of users. But crucially a lot of the people who helped to provide quality content.

Despite the hate he gets, Spez is not quite as batshit crazy as Musk (he still is coming up with shit ideas for the future of Reddit though). So although I think Reddit will become a much less interesting place it probably won't become an unuseable dumpster fire for casual users (like Twitter).

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I doubt a "mass exodus", most people probably stayed and it will take time before there's a mass exodus from the platform. As apparent as it is to many of us that Reddit has gone to shit, for the vast majority of users, they just saw it as another meme-able moment, just another one of those reddit dramas that flares up and dies down eventually in time fort he next trend to hit.

For them though, maybe it's died down already and it's back to business as usual, maybe not, but the casual users aren't going to see the true effects for some time I think. As a lack of moderation, a lack of content, an increase in bots, spam, and extremism start to take hold on the platform, users will start to realize that something is not quite right, it's not the same reddit it used to be. They'll start to get an inkling of what we've already seen and maybe at that point they'll start branching out to Lemmy or some other platform. This may cause Reddit, the company, to start acting out in desperation to try to keep users from leaving and/or protect its potential profits, which may in turn cause a feedback loop wherein more users leave and Reddit gets stupider and stupider (similar to what we're currently seeing with Twitter). It'll be awhile before there's a true mass exodus from the site.

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