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submitted 1 year ago by hellfire103@sopuli.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I have used SearXNG for a while, but I switched to LibreX after the search engine started glitching. Recently, though, LibreX has stopped returning any results. I am currently on Mojeek, but the results aren't that great.

I have also tried Qwant, but I wasn't too keen on it. Startpage will be impractical, as I use a VPN and this engine often blocks me because of it. I don't want to use Brave Search for a number of reasons. MetaGer has too many important features behind its paywall. I'm not sure about DuckDuckGo, but I could use it if there was no other option.

Any suggestions, or am I being too picky?

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[-] xHoudek@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

Why are people so against DDG here? Just wondering because I use it and think it’s fine

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago

US-based meaning 3 letter agencies can get your data without a court order and that you aren't protected by the GDPR if you don't live in the EU

[-] yoppa@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Anything US based should be avoided.

[-] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

General good practice

[-] EnderofGames@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

They track their users, even though not tracking users is supposed to be their thing.

[-] authed@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

DDG is basically Bing

[-] rizoid@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm wondering the same. ddg has been great for me.

[-] yoppa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
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[-] glacier@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago

I primarily use DuckDuckGo, and occasionally have to use a !bang to get to the Startpage or Google.

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[-] DuckGuy@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

If SearXNG worked for you, why not use a more stable instance?

[-] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What issues did you have with SearXNG?

You could try to self host it, or even just run it on your local machine.

Shameless plug on how to set it up locally, and how to set up custom filters (to block junk websites and redirect reddit to the old interface).

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

It stopped returning results. I tried other instances: same problems. However, I think the issue may have been fixed.

I am currently on an iPhone, and I'm not really in a position to self-host (although I did try to set up a FreedomBox the other day).

[-] orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Ah fair enough.

I started by having it on my laptop, and used it only there. Liked it so much that I'm renting a VPS around $5 a month to have it on all my devices.

But to be fair, I'm also hosting other things on that VPS (SearXNG is very light), so it's multi-purpose.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Who do you like for VPS hosting?

[-] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I recommend Oracle Cloud Always Free - 4 Arm cores, 24GB RAM, 200GB storage. I've used it before they sanctioned Russia and it worked fine (but if hardware fails your data will stay but you will be at the bottom of the queue for replacement)

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[-] Syrup@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Can you tell us why Qwant wasn't a good choice for you? I heard they work hard on respecting privacy while providing good results... So I am curious about your experience

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

The engine occasionally throws up a "Sorry, we've detected unusual traffic from your IP address" and then I have to type in my query again after solving the captcha. They're also based in France, which is bringing in anti-encryption laws and suchlike, so (unless I'm an idiot, which is not unlikely) the risk of something compromising Qwant is rising a bit.

On top of that, it's the only privacy-respecting search engine not to achieve an A grade on ToS;DR.

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[-] Lightning66@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I use a self hosted instance of Whoogle. It threw up an error a few days back. Got stuck in Google captcha(probably an IP issue). Now it has reset and it is smooth sailing.

Yeah, it is simply Google results, but I think it's fine...

[-] chief_chef@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

I use Startpage, it’s based within the EU and a proxy for Google results!

[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Google results

which these days are very very bad! especially if you search something tech/programming related.

[-] utopianrevolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

some here won't like the idea of a premium, private search engine but Kagi is one of the best tech discoveries I've made in a long time. I pay $5/month for 300 searches and always seem to hit the limit at the very end of my month, never payed the 1.5 cents per search after that.

[-] muertinez@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

can you explain more on why it’s worth that subscription?

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[-] Caravaggio@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to use Brave Search for a number of reasons.

Mind sharing? I'm curious because I switched to DDG several days ago, after a good while of using Brave. My reasons were:

  • defaulting to Moderate safe search every couple of days
  • inability to provide me with good results for simple '[word] wiktionary' queries
  • having to block some elements of their result templates manually, using their own browser's filtering feature (featured snippets, definitions etc)
  • poorer search results compared to what they were a year, two ago

Some people here mentioned Kagi and I liked it a lot when I was beta-testing it, but I will only start paying for using it when they introduce full support for Boolean operators, which most likely means never.

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

I don't like Brave as a company. Brendan Eich is an arsehole, Brave Browser has had (minor, but numerous) controversies, their crypto stuff is off-putting, and now they're sticking their new AI into everything.

[-] confusedwiseman@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Qwant and kagi have been a great pair. Brave search was good, but they had some controversy a bit back.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I have to say I used Random Searx a lot, startpage as Backup. And as VPNs are getting mainstream, it gets a pain in the ass. Mullvad Leta sucks too kinda. Now I use duckduckgo alone and actually never need my specially configured SearXNG search providers, although useful.

I have to say, I use a lot of search engines. Using the "Add custom search" Addon on Firefox you can easily add any URL containing a search word to your browser.

I maintain some lists of search engines that need updating.

[-] jlow@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm using https://metager.de/ it's German and sometimes the results lean towards that but in 99% of cases it doesn't matter.

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