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City trail = parking lot snow overflow (lemmy.world)

submitted 8 months ago by UnPassive@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

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There is a hill to the left so it's actually really hard to walk through. Don't wanna go in the parking lot cause of my dog. It's a great trail connecting 2 parks but the section by the mall is not respected by the snow plows.

Would be such a shame to have to keep their snow on a row of unused parking spots! (This is the back side of our mall so no cars almost ever)

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[-] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

You're assuming the plow drivers are even aware the trail exists.

[-] UnPassive@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I don't mean to assume anything. I do feel like the plow company should ask the mall "where should we pile the snow?" Though. And the answer shouldn't be "into the parks"

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 8 months ago

I doubt they’re paid enough to care.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Seriously, I had to argue with my neighbor’s plow driver who kept covering the sidewalk I cleared and destroying my yard because “where else can I put the snow”? After angrily defending his laziness, he did figure it out. There are plenty of places, especially on the property of the people paying him, just not quite as easy as the sidewalk in front of my house

[+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -22 points 8 months ago

It's winter. What do you expect?

[-] Mannivu@feddit.it 24 points 8 months ago

His problem it's not the snow itself, but the fact that the snow has been moved onto a walkable trail to clear some parking spots.

[+] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -28 points 8 months ago

The snow has to go somewhere

[-] Mannivu@feddit.it 18 points 8 months ago

Putting it onto a walkable trail it's not the best option. Leave it on some parking spots, there are plenty of those as OP said.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 11 points 8 months ago

So you'd be OK if they buried your driveway in the entire streets snow then.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

What do you mean "if". That's what happens when plows go down the street.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

I'm general I agree, but apparently this is a private company (the mall) using a private contractor (the plow) to push waste onto public property (the trail). This assumes the trail is official and not on mall property, because then the mall can do whatever they want.

I bet the plow company has no clue there's a trail there and the mall doesn't actually walk back there and look. This is ultimately wrong but probably occurs simply due to ignorance. This is a people problem first and foremost, with car usage being the vector.

[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Exactly. I very much doubt the driver targeted that path.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

As much as this is an ignorance problem, the problem still wouldn't exist is the mall didn't maintain a parking lot all winter that barely sees use as it far larger than it needs to be. The parking lot being larger than it needs to be is a direct result of car centric planning and bogus parking minimums.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Which is fine, cause it's private property. If the path is official, the local government needs to be informed and the issue rectified.

It's not up to OP or the mall to change the layout and systemic land use of society. But if the plow company is blocking a public path, that needs to be immediately addressed, as local actors can actually remediate it

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yes it has to go somewhere but you can still choose where. Most places are able to figure something out without impacting others. In this case, most malls have huge parking lots: surely they have a back corner that rarely gets used, or grassy areas where damaging only affects them.

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

It can go into some of the parking spots.

[-] UnPassive@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

The park (and trail) isn't owned by the mall, if they pushed snow into your backyard you might have a problem. I don't think "snow has to go somewhere" is a good enough excuse to abuse a public space

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 8 points 8 months ago

For them to pile the snow up in a few corner spaces like normal people instead of littering. You know, like everyone else fucking does.

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