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Do I have Burnout? (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago by RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I really just need to talk about this to someone. I'm in college and I've always loved to learn, but now I don't feel motivated do my school work or to study, but at the same time, when a test roles around and I don't know how to answer the questions I get stressed and care about trying to do well. I've also always beaten myself over the head about having good grades, my parents never had to push me to do good in school. I'm just so stressed about it, the semester is ending soon, and I'm scared I'm gonna fail 2 classes which will be then first time I've ever failed a class.

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[-] Pronell@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

Burnout, stress, depression, overwhelmed, any number of things could be going on.

Talk to your professors and an advisor, see what resources they have for you.

But also understand this says NOTHING bad about you, and in fact recognizing you are struggling and need help is a good sign.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 months ago

Hey man. I failed two classes and today I'm a software engineer earning 6 figures. Don't sweat it. If you fail a class you can always retake it. It's not the end of the world.

Just do your best and take care of yourself. The most important part is eating well, drinking enough water and getting enough sleep. Sleep is very important.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 7 months ago

I got my GED because some credits wouldn't transfer and I would graduate later than my peers. I dropped out of college after two years to pursue a career path (not a very smart one, in hindsight, but one that still afforded me certain opportunities). I've worked as a software engineer, but moved back to IT because helping people directly is more gratifying, even if it's lower impact. There were other factors at play (hated long hours, hated long commute).

The point is, you're not fucked. That you have to ask means that you're in bad shape with mental health. That's not a death sentence. Maybe try therapy (works for me) and possibly additional treatment. There might be something that requires active management or it could just be that you've hit a temporary rough patch. Get help and don't be hard on yourself for needing it. Everyone does in some fashion.

One of the most profound things I was ever taught was a parent explaining that they read the memoire of someone they greatly admired and found out that they (the author) had all the same insecurities and fears. They were human.

[-] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think about burnout simply: if resting no longer leads to recovery, then you're burned out.

Peace. Good luck.

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

This is a very common sentiment that I see in my students (I am a teaching assistant in a university sometimes). I obviously can't diagnose you, but I do recommend speaking to a counselor or a therapist. What you're describing sounds like either burnout or depression, and without more information, I can't really guess as to which one it is.

As for practical academic advice, I have several guesses as to what's going on. My first guess is that you have testing anxiety. It could be worth doing an online search about how to manage testing anxiety and speaking to a counselor if that's the case.

The second guess, which is more cynical but unfortunately significantly more common in students, is that you might be experiencing the big-fish effect. As for the big-fish effect, college is different from high school. There's more people per class, and more people in general. And college tends to have a weeding effect, where people who are less academically inclined tend not to attend college. So whereas previously you found yourself to be academically gifted among your peers, now you find yourself just as gifted as everyone else around you. Big fish in a small pond, essentially.

I can't say for sure if that is the case for you, but it's important in general to remember that college and onward are significantly different from high school and before. This culture shift is the one thing that really trips up a lot of students. In high school, teachers' jobs were to funnel students to the next grade, even if students didn't quite understand the material. College is really the first step where students start to be weeded out. What that means is, even getting through college means you are academically gifted. But it also means that you cannot use the habits that you've used in high school and just expect it to work in college. All instructors in college and onward approach class with the mindset of "you're responsible for your own success." Essentially, you should learn to be extremely proactive in your learning experience. You might have noticed that class takes up much less time than in high school. That's not because professors wants you to have more free time. It's because professors expect you to use that time to stay on top of all the lecture material on your own. Go to office hours. Ask questions. Read the textbook, take notes, study your notes. And if you aren't already doing this: ATTEND ALL THE LECTURES. NO EXCEPTIONS.

If you are having trouble with the material or if you notice that you're doing worse than you expected, then college expects that you need to take the reins and reach out for help yourself. Professors are excellent for answering anything you're confused about - go to their office hours or send them an email. TA's are also a remarkably good resource, but for slightly different reasons: they've taken the exact same class only a handful of years ago, and they know exactly the little tips and tricks that'll help you succeed in class. And they know what's the important information that you need to know and what's unimportant extra information. And they also know what the professor is like, so they may warn you of trick questions or misleading wordings.

As for what you can do right now regarding your grades this semester? Like I said - be proactive. Reach out to the professors of those classes. Ask for clarifications on any questions you have, ask for corrections on any questions you missed on exams. Ask for extra credit. Go through the end-of-chapter questions and do them all, and show it to the professor. Show that you're willing to do extra work, and then actually follow through with doing that extra work. There's an open secret in college, which is that professors can do whatever they want. Convince them that you care, convince them that you deserve extra credit, and they will give you extra credit.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 11 points 7 months ago

Apologies for the pithy remark; but if you have to ask yourself if it's burnout, then it's probably burnout.

That is not to say that it can't also be other things too, in my experience burnout is usually accompanied by depression and an excess of work stress.

[-] pezmaker@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Edited to add: I Guess I didn't really address the point specifically about not studying and struggling with the tests. That was me the entirety of my education, from the first grades I can remember all the way through my 8.5 years of college with 2 degrees. I just didn't care, especially when the homework itself wasn't graded. I'm not sure how to help on that point specifically, other than to say that you're not alone, and I made it with similar issues.


It's really difficult to stay motivated for as long as we're in education. Do you know where your current standing is specifically in those two courses? Could you go to those two professors and voice what you're facing and see if there's any recommendations they can provide you?

It's ok to fail. We don't want that to be our normal state but it's ok. It's ok to be tired and struggling with motivation. A big part of learning is learning how to adapt to new situations and not just learning a particular topic. College is about both and then some.

What year are you in? Some of those early courses are meant to get you to the next step, and some (it's been a while for me, maybe it isn't this way anymore) seemed like they were intentionally designed to get people to quit. Weed out courses, so to say.

One of those weed out courses I went through was a huge attendance first level physics course that it seemed like nobody was doing well. About 1/4 dropped it over time to avoid the failing grade.

In the end, the professor did a flat full 2 grade "curve" for everyone that stuck it out. I don't think his intent was to teach, I think it was to break those who would be willing to drop. I don't like the concept of those courses, and I don't even know if they exist anymore, but that's also something to consider if the ones you're failing in have that kind of feeling to them.

Keep trying, you're not a failure just because you've failed at something, and sometimes this is part of life. You've got this.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Gotta vent...

There's a reason college students party.

If you're stressing it's going to make you perform worse and then stress more. Very easy to fall into a feedback loop.

So even though it sounds counterproductive, you need to take some time away from it and recharge.

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

I was in a similar situation as you. I pulled through and let me tell you: It did not get better :(

I managed to get good grades and such because I knew most of the core concepts already and had some luck in the intelligence lottery w.r.t the specific kinds of intelligence beneficial in my field which enabled me to learn the new parts really quite easily but if that's not the case for you, YMMV.

If I was doing it again, I'd stop if possible (a degree was not strictly required in my situation but beneficial). Failing that, I'd find a way to make it not as stressful (i.e. fewer classes).

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

If you can get away with dropping a couple of classes and still have enough credits then try to do that to lessen your workload. You can also potentially reduce it further if you request accommodations.

[-] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Hey op, you should see if your uni has a counseling center or if you're in a country with proper healthcare you should see about getting therapy the regular way

[-] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

When I was in college, they had mental health services offered for free to students. I talked to a therapist once when I had an anxiety attack in college and it helped immensely.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Your description doesn't sound like burnout, but it does sound like all of the risk factors for burnout, so take care not to push yourself too hard.

[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 2 points 7 months ago

You say you've always loved to learn, but really it sounds like you're more of a completionist. You're more interested in succeeding in the academic rituals (taking tests and getting good grades) than learning itself. Aka, you're extrinsically motivated, not intrinsically. Extrinsic motivation always leads to burn out eventually.

Perhaps reevaluate whether you're going to college just to get some degree that will make you employable (as we do in the US), or if you're actually interested in learning about a specialized field. If the latter is true, reevaluate your major and maybe see if you can switch to something that interests you enough to motivate you intrinsically.

[-] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What I meant by "I love to learn" was on both ends. I love learning history and math, but I'm aiming for a mechatronics degree because I've always been interested in robots. I'm still interested in mechatronics, just feel like I'm struggling with some classes and getting the motivation to finish them.

[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I find in today's society it's easy to lose any reason for doing anything other than "I was told I have to" about halfway through college it really did feel like a scam, like I was getting screwed over and forced to do it anyway. I still believe it's partially true, but I used the skills I learned in college to help push my personal life goals along.

Ask yourself, will you be happy doing what you're going to school for? Is the goal you're going towards what you actually want to do? Will it help you do what you actually want to do? If you find good reasons for those, the next time you ask yourself "why am I doing any of this?" You'll have an answer. If not, well, maybe it's time to change your concentration, or seek out paths other than college.

Just remember that you also do need to think about affording to live (unfortunately) in all of this.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Your description doesn't sound like burnout, but it does sound like all of the risk factors for burnout, so take care not to push yourself too hard.

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