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Civil war (lemm.ee)

submitted 1 year ago by wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee to c/moviesandtv@lemm.ee

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I went to see it. It’s very non-political. If you are expecting a satire, it is not. If you want to see the other side owned. You won’t.

If you want to see how division is bad for the country, go see it. It’s a tense movie and well done.

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[–] julianh@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Non-political? What does that even mean in this context? It's literally about a civil war in America caused by political issues.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think they mean that it's non-partisan. The movie clearly is broadly political.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

But it's also clearly partisan with just enough play to avoid a boycott. Everything the authoritarian president does to initiate the war has a very direct analogue in actions taken by Trump and his administration.

[–] WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the OPs posts are in Conservative, a movement that thinks original series Star Trek was originally not political at all and media becomes political when they show the real experiences of a minority or disenfranchised member of society. I would take them saying something isn't political with a grain of salt.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

"Nonpolitical" is just another way of saying "I agree with the politics"

[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] julianh@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

That's still a political message though, it doesn't have to be about a specific political party. The idea of the film itself is political.

[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The preview I saw of it makes it look like shit. What is the justification at all? Why did the fighting start? Sounds like bullshit, feel free to spoil it for me, not going to watch it regardless. Just looks like some type of brainworm took over everyone and they started wanting violence indiscriminately.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The why is not really important to the movie. The only mention of why is the president taking a third term and possibly also doing airstrikes on citizens before the start of the civil war. The film more focuses on the how of a possible civil war: the societal breakdown, the atrocities, how people are making it through, etc. There is not really a clearly good militant group in the movie and it is not clear that things are going to somehow be all good if/once the president is removed from office.

I think there were definitely some things that could have been added in like many more corrupt as fuck checkpoints blocking roads. They did show a checkpoint but the characters had no issues with it. Checkpoints are a very easy way for soldiers or locals to shake people down.

If you want something that goes more into why a civil war might happen, I recommend the beginning of the podcast series It Could Happen Here. It was made back in 2019 and foretold some of how things unfolded in 2020 and 2021.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have one side that is bloodthirsty for a civil war and another side that just wants to live. Naturally, they are equally to blame for division.

[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

A mod of a conservative echo chamber says its not political. Bwaaa Ha ha ha

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL these comments are a hint as to why things are so bad here and we need this movie. It's like people can't conceive of a nonpartisan message. The only thing they seem to understand is "other side bad, tho". And I'm very much someone who thinks the other side is bad. But for the love of god that's not the point of the movie.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In all seriousness is this movie aimed at anyone other than the US?

Would I enjoy it not being resident of said country.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.run 5 points 1 year ago

I think so. It isn't about American partisan politics, but rather what civil war does to a country, its population, and its national spirit.