The woke is coming from inside the house!
They were worried about exterior pedophiles this whole time when the interior pedophiles were the problem the whole time!
This guy just solved right wing politics
My uncle has a male pictogram on his bathroom door and a female on the door to the kitchen.
If he ever enters the kitchen he becomes genderfluid
Ah shit that reminded me to change the gender fluid in my car. Thanks.
I’ll give you some gender fluid 🤭
I wouldn't trust them, might steal your face!
Needless to say, aunt shits in the woods
No, she shits in the kitchen.
What else are garbage disposals good for
It’s just a bougie poop knife
Your family has a poop knife too?
many fist sized chunks of uncle.
I see the uncle has a fine taste
Is anybody honestly against single occupancy gender neutral bathrooms? I always took it to be a matter of multi-occupancy bathrooms.
here is an example. im not educated enough to know the specifics, but this would bar single occupancy gender neutral bathrooms in most cases except when the building is too small it seems.
the fact that it is going to legislation at all is of course absurd and obviously just anti-woke posturing. if the government cares about “dignity and privacy” they’d ban communal bathrooms in the first place.
Pretty sure it doesn't ban single occupancy bathrooms. It bans multi-occupancy gender neutral bathrooms - like bathrooms with stalls that share the same set of sinks. Don't get me wrong it's still dumb, but not as bad as you are thinking.
okay fair thanks for the correction. i think we can still both agree that it’s obviously just meant to antagonize people over a non-issue in order to maintain a culture war tho 👍
edit: okay im reading through again and i think i was right? and they are banning both? i welcome the insight of others in interpreting this bc now im confused as hell
As part of the regulations, contractors can construct “self-contained universal toilets” which the government said may only be constructed if a “lack of space reasonably precludes provision of single-sex toilet accommodation.”
Oof okay I guess it's worse than I thought. I swear they had some provision for non-binary people, but i guess they just hate queer people.
I don't agree with dismissing everything as a distraction. I think some conservatives legitimately do care about this stuff. I also don't think people would suddenly turn anti-capitalist from just not having distractions. People are generally dumb as shit, and most the alternatives to capitalism are also shit because again people are dumb. If you are going to replace capitalism you need to come up with something that's both actually better, explainable to the public, and overcome the baggage of all the experiments that failed.
No, not really.. But multi-occupancy isn't that different. Every stall has a lock, same as out houses.
its about the efficiency of urinals versus the trauma of cross-traffic.
Trauma of cross traffic? Don't you pass the opposite gender in the hallway to both gendered bathrooms anyways? Does the presence of a sink really make it suddenly traumatizing to be within view of the opposite gender?
Everytime this nonsense comes up I point out communal bathrooms are the problem. Maybe someday people will understand.
My church has these which is pretty funny to think about
It's a case of efficiency. Stalls and urinals take less space than single occupancy bathrooms - which translates into smaller buildings costing less money to build, maintain, heat, a lower impact on climate and also allowing a higher efficiency usage of land.
Besides, most places that have stalls also have at least one large gender neutral single occupancy bathroom with extra features such as a baby station and disability adaptations.
Unless there suddenly becomes a huge demand for gender neutral bathrooms, I don't see why that additional bathroom wouldn't be sufficient to serve people who can't use the regular bathrooms.
The gender stuff is just a distraction from the resource hoarding and exploitation of the working class. The people in positions of authority or power (like 0.0001%) don’t really care about their religious “beliefs” etc. or whatever else drives them to say they care about gender neutral bathrooms. The only real belief for such 0.0001 percenters is self preservation.
But there definitely are useful idiots in the lower ranks who are manipulated using religion to pretend they’re all somehow morally superior while they’re being cowardly or petty.
Idk it always seemed like knowing that gender is a social construct / or performance clarifies how to resolve the exploitation of people in the working class who have to perform oppressive roles because of their gender. It really is emancipatory as in it allows no linkage of production roles with biological attributes, for starters. And even allows the working class to stop dividing itself on the basis of gender. There will always be short sighted or selfish actors who turn the movement towards bourgeois interpretations.
True. The more divisions between workers we eliminate (be they gender, race, national origin, whatever) the better it is for all workers.
The most impressive bathroom layout I've ever seen was pretty open concept. It seems strange, but let me explain.
Directly off of a major area was basically a hallway, on that hallway was a set of doors. Full sized doors. One right after the other. Each door led to a room which is smaller than most closets, containing a toilet. That was about it for what's in the room. Of course the usual toilet/stall amenities were available. At the end of this hallway of toilet closets, was a long sink for handwashing.
It was entirely gender neutral, and there was zero risk of rape or any other perceived danger.
I'm sure the closet stall design took up slightly more floor space than your average bathroom stall. Honestly it seems like a small price to pay to have a room all to yourself when you're doing your business.
I'm sure that adopting this design would get cries from the fragile men about their precious urinals. Honestly, fuck them. The toilet does the job, you animal.
You REALLY overestimate how much men like urinals. Have you ever seen an urinal at anyone's home? Men would be perfectly fine with toilets.
That's some interesting conjecture there. Clearly you and I know different kinds of fellows.
Some of the guys I know would rather piss outside than go find a toilet. A tree is about as close as you can get to a urinal in nature. I've also seen guys wait for a urinal when toilets are clearly available.
Of course, not all men are like this, but I've met a nontrivial number who are.
I've known guys who had urinals installed in their homes and whatnot. IMO, it's weird, but they can do what they want.
To be perfectly clear, I don't believe that represents the majority of men, but an outspoken minority can be noisy enough to push the needle one way or another simply because the majority doesn't care one way or the other. It happens all the time.
There's also the mindset of maintaining the status quo at all costs, whether because those people simply do not want to adapt or change, or because they want those that don't fit into the narrow heteronormative viewpoint. The underlying reasons change, and sometimes people are genuine in their reasoning, but it's all reasoning to keep with what we have and not change to something that is objectively better.
I'm sure that adopting this design would get cries from the fragile men about their precious urinals. Honestly, fuck them. The toilet does the job, you animal.
They started putting in gender neutral bathrooms where I work. They also put in a few urinals, behind closed doors, just like the rest of the toilets. It’s not even an issue (unless you like checking out other dudes’ junk with the current setup).
Reactionaries are entirely silly in world view and dangerous in action.
Oh, I have made several comments suggesting the implementation of single occupant bathrooms in places like schools, and been downvoted into oblivion. Now suddenly, a post like this one sounds like a good idea to everyone on Lemmy?!?
weird lol im sorry!?
this post definitely popped off more than i expected. 1.2k votes for what i thought was just a fluff shitpost is crazy lol.
They know that. They are used to breaking in on their kids and spouses in vulnerable positions in the gender neutral bathrooms in their homes. They are used to “accidentally” walking in on their neighbor’s kids who are visiting.
Why do you think they are scared of that kind of bathroom in public?
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