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submitted 1 year ago by BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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[-] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 year ago

You ever drive through Disney World property? They have hundreds of thousands of people on the property every single day, yet there's hardly ever any traffic on the property itself. They achieve this through free and robust public transportation that takes people between all of the hotels and the parks while penalizing drivers who don't want to take it with large parking fees. Especially with buses taking people between the airport and Disney property, there's hardly a reason for most people to rent a car. As a result, despite heavy traffic in the area surrounding Disney World, they've effectively beat traffic on the property itself, but clearly traffic is unbeatable with public transportation because the billionaire who owns a car company says it doesn't work

[-] gon@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem with the latter two is they get stuck in the same traffic as everyone else. Better 1 bus than 60 cars ofc, but it's not really that much faster even if you have bus lanes. If you don't have bus lanes, it's slower than driving by definition.

The former two work way better in their use cases (intra-city and inter-city respectively), and both of them pale in comparison the undisputed king of large metropolitan transit, the metro/subway/underground.

[-] gon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Thought process was like: if everyone just used buses, we could keep the infrastructure and it would greatly improve traffic. Of course in practice, IDK...

Will add a metro image~

[-] Ath47@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is exactly right. But since it requires everyone to make a change all at once, it unfortunately can never happen in the US.

[-] Old_Dude@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I take the train to work since my job pays for it, but I'm not going to pretend like it's faster than driving through traffic. If I drive, door to door takes 30 - 45 minutes depending on the time I leave. If I take public transportation, door to door it takes an hour and 15 minutes no matter what.

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 25 points 1 year ago

When i went to school in my states capital, I rode the bus there every day. I could drive there in 1hr, then pay between $4-40 for parking depending how well I trusted a lot. Riding the bus took 50m. It bypassed all highway traffic and had its own lane, and even with stops it still was faster than driving.

I think if we prioritized transit, people would be amazed how efficient it can really be.

[-] AshLassay@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Trains also suffer from traffic. Like you can’t enter a train that is full. Plus trains that don’t arrive on time and cause you to miss your appointment is similar to being stuck in traffic.

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wasn’t aware that multiple times a day hundreds of thousands of people come to a complete stop on the trains and move at less than 10mph for miles, where is that?

[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Trains when a techbro tries ‘reinventing’ then

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 20 points 1 year ago

What if, instead of a train that can hold thousands of people and move them quickly and efficiently, we made a tunnel and had cars drive through it one at a time?

[-] Dark_Blade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Brilliant! Here, you deserve all our public transport budget!

[-] AshLassay@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US, where passenger trains have to wait for cargo trains. Since cargo trains have higher priority.

[-] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 16 points 1 year ago

I’ve been in one of those trains that had to wait, and it was definitely frustrating. However, you are incorrect, passenger rail has priority. What rail companies have done, however, is to make their cargo trains too long to fit onto the pull off rails provided to them, meaning, despite the fact that they are legally obligated to allow the passenger trains to pass, functionally, they’ve bypassed that law and the federal government has put no effort into correcting that behavior.

[-] Jolan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

German ice 😭

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Almost any German train.

"Dear passengers, the reason we are currently going so slow is because the dispatcher of this area put a tram in front of us" (POV: you're in an interregional train) (this has happened at least 10 times already)