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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[โ€“] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

No, don't know what it is either

[โ€“] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

This is a dumb question. That's like asking TERFs if they self-identify as bigots. They're going to respond that no, of course they aren't, they're just gender realists (or gender critical, or whatever).

[โ€“] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The .world libs just couldn't help themselves but ruin our circlejerk.

Sure fuck it. I'll Tankie. Castro is a hero. Western news knows nothing of glorious DPRK Juche, and comrade Stalin did nothing wrong.

Yes.

[โ€“] moon@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. I had no idea about this instance's reputation when I joined Lemmy but it's nothing like the other instance you mentioned.

It gets very tiring trying to have a conversation with contrarians who think everything Western is bad and anything Chinese/USSR is good. Or worse, that their highly suspicious news sources (some random blog usually) are telling you the real truth, while using any mainstream news media source makes you a deluded Lib

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[โ€“] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes.

I don't care to hide my aims; I don't move sheisty like some of y'all favorite Democrats do. Til all are fed and all have beds; my skin is Black, my star is Red.

Tankies get spankies.

[โ€“] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

NO. Communism is interesting, but I'm heavily anti-authoritarian.

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[โ€“] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tankie originally referred to authoritarian communists, but over the past couple of years I've seen it referred to, like, anyone significantly to the left of the Democratic Party. Former suck, very much aspire to be part of the latter.

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No

Oppression is oppression independent of the ideological basis, people who support oppressive governments based on a loose ideological basis deserve the worse.

[โ€“] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

NO, Iโ€™m also not from this instance for similar reasons

[โ€“] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No

On economic policy I am quite far left - I support a low Gini coefficient, achieved through a mixed economy, but with state provided options (with no 'think of the businesses' pricing strategy) for the essentials and state owned options for natural monopolies / utilities / media.

But on social policy, I support social liberties and democracy. I believe the government should intervene, with force if needed, to protect the rights of others from interference by others (including rights to bodily safety and autonomy, not to be discriminated against, the right to a clean and healthy environment, and the right not to be exploited or misled by profiteers) and to redistribute wealth from those with a surplus to those in need / to fund the legitimate functions of the state. Outside of that, people should have social and political liberties.

I consider being a 'tankie' to require both the leftist aspect (โœ…) and the authoritarian aspect (โŒ), so I don't meet the definition.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

"Mixed economy" and "far left" don't go together, unless you are using that as a platform to achieve a fully Socialist economy in the future.

Congratulations, your ideology cannot be implemented in the real world because the ruling class interests will do anything in their power to stop anything like it from ever being implemented and you reject the use of force to displace these said ruling class interests, who are currently boiling the plane alive killing millions of people through pollution, healthcare neglect, war and disease.

Capitalists societies have only ever implemented mixed economies with (relatively) low gini coefficients in the aftermath of WW2, when both the working class was armed (and willing to use force) and there existed an existential threat in the form of the soviet union. Outside of these conditions, capitalists societies have maintained extremely irrational forms of organization.

It is not sufficient to have some idea of what kind of society you want, you also need to think about the kinds of conditions under which said society could actually exist irl.

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