Architeuthis

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Now I really wonder how much EA donation money went into making this.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Mom: We have Eyes Wide Shut style orgies at home

Eyes Wide Shut orgies at home:

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago

Imo because the whole topic of superforecasters and prediction markets is both undercriticized and kaleidoskopically preposterous in a way that makes it feel like you shouldn't broach the topic unless you are prepared to commit to some diatribe length posting.

Which somebody should, it's a shame there is yet no one single place you can point to and say "here's why this thing is weird and grifty and pretend science while striclty promoted by the scientology of AI, and also there's crypto involved".

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe he's the guy who goes to the orgy just to hold hands.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In yet another part of the article:

She had found herself in both an intellectual community and a demimonde, with a running list of inside jokes and in-group norms. Some people gave away their savings, assuming that, within a few years, money would be useless or everyone on Earth would be dead.

More totally normal things in our definitely not a cult community.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder how much of that family fortune has found its way into EA coffers by now.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 1 year ago

Basically their only hope is that an AI under their control takes over the world.

They are pretty dominant in the LLM space and are already having their people fast tracked into positions of influence, while sinking tons of cash into normalizing their views and enforcing their terminology.

Even though they aren't trying to pander to religious americans explicitly, their millenialism with the serial numbers filed off worldview will probably feel familiar and cozy to them.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wasn't he supposed to be a romantic asexual at some point?

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 33 points 1 year ago (11 children)

This was such a chore to read, it's basically quirk-washing TREACLES. This is like a major publication deciding to take an uncritical look at scientology focusing on the positive vibes and the camaraderie, while stark in the middle of operation snow white, which in fact I bet happened a lot at the time.

The doomer scene may or may not be a delusional bubble—we’ll find out in a few years

Fuck off.

The doomers are aware that some of their beliefs sound weird, but mere weirdness, to a rationalist, is neither here nor there. MacAskill, the Oxford philosopher, encourages his followers to be “moral weirdos,” people who may be spurned by their contemporaries but vindicated by future historians. Many of the A.I. doomers I met described themselves, neutrally or positively, as “weirdos,” “nerds,” or “weird nerds.” Some of them, true to form, have tried to reduce their own weirdness to an equation. “You have a set amount of ‘weirdness points,’ ” a canonical post advises. “Spend them wisely.”

The weirdness is eugenics and the repugnant conclusion, and abusing bayes rule to sidestep context and take epistimological shortcuts to cuckoo conclusions while fortifying a bubble of accepted truths that are strangely amenable to allowing rich people to do whatever the hell they want.

Writing a 7-8000 word insider expose on TREACLES without mentioning eugenics even once throughout should be all but impossible, yet here we are.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah, a lot of these TESCREAL exposés seem to lean on the perceived quirkiness while completely failing to convey how deeply unserious their purported scientific and philosophical footing is, like virgin tzatziki with impossible gyros unserious.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Something like a weekly general topic thread would work great for this I think.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Greece has no groups focused on improving fish welfare however, Charity Entrepreneurship is possibly starting a charity focused on advocating for fish welfare improvements Greece.

EAs advocating for fish welfare is about the only thing yet to be seen in this country, awesome.

If you want to influence Greece just use some of the fabled EA obsquatumatillions to buy out the left part of our two party system, they're currently in such shambles they'd barely notice, and it's not like they could do much worse with shrimp rights as a flagship issue.

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