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TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

According to another user in here, blocking on Mastodon actually works. So seems like it is possible to do in the Fediverse.

The only way I could see that working is if the list of users you blocked were federated too, and effectively made public

I actually thought blocks were public already. And personally I don't see how it would be an issue if people that I haven't blocked can see who I've blocked.

As far as I'm aware, on Reddit blocking a user doesn't hide your comments from them

According to Reddit themselves on their support page: "Redditors you block won't be able to access your profile or see or reply to your posts or comments"

Then what happens if you post in a community where someone you've blocked is a moderator?

Let moderators see comments from users that have blocked them in communities that they moderate but nowhere else. Or do whatever Reddit does in this case.

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee -4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

With admins, mods (not relevant for default UI?) actively dealing with mass downvotes, stalker-like behaviour and so on.

See that's my problem here. I just came from a heavily moderated instance because I thought that I could moderate my own experience instead. But it turns out that I have to rely on admins and moderators anyway.

Part of the adoption of the dual-side block method is because large corps want automation and don't really care about quality (all about engagement).

Yeah I don't buy this. To me, it makes perfect logical sense that if I block someone, they're actually blocked and not just hidden from my view. Maybe this wasn't a problem for forum sites used by a couple of hundred people at most but it's not 1999 anymore and there's a lot of psychos out there. It's nice to know that you can actually protect yourself to some extent on an online platform these days.

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee -1 points 11 hours ago

If I block someone on Mastodon or another Fediverse microblogging instance, they’re blocked

I too enjoy when the proper meanings of words get used and things work as advertised. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills that this is such a controversial topic here. Imagine wanting moderation tools that actually work, the nerve!

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

When you block someone, the first thing that Facebook does is restrict the blocked user's access to your profile. The user can't view your profile even if they have a direct link to your account page. They'll get an error message if they try to do that.

Information from https://www.howtogeek.com/896008/what-happens-when-you-block-someone-on-facebook/

You can keep making these bullshit statements about how it works on other sites but thankfully I have this thing called 'internet' to look up the facts myself.

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee 0 points 11 hours ago

If you’d like to cut off contact from someone for any reason, you can block them by going to their profile or visiting your user settings.

Redditors you block won't be able to access your profile or see or reply to your post or comments in communities, unless you are a moderator in specific situations.

From https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/4413520308372-How-does-blocking-work. But I see that you downvoted that user for their correct information anyway without bothering to confirm for yourself. I find it pretty sad how people around here seem to be falling over themselves to defend the Fediverse at all costs without even discussing something or wanting it to be better.

I have literally always known blocking to be blocking, not filtering. Blocking blocks people on your phone, on chat apps, on Facebook and on Reddit. Not sure why this is a special case that needs to be forgiven or ignored.

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

Can you give examples of platforms where it works like this? I know that blocking someone on Facebook blocks them from being able to see you. Pretty Twitter is or was the same before Musk. And I just looked it up, blocking a user on Reddit does in fact block them from seeing you. I'm pretty sure it's always worked this way on smaller platforms I've used too.

So I'm curious to know, which platforms have you always used that have apparently always worked this way?

TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo in c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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TIL blocking users on Lemmy is nothing but a placebo (lemm.ee)
submitted 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) by Character_Locked@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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Today I found out that on this platform, "block" is just a fancy word for "filter". Just had an individual user go through my entire profile and downvote everything. So I blocked them, thinking that this would make me safe from any future stalking. But I was just informed that no, any user that you 'block' is actually still able to see everything that you post and vote freely.

All that 'blocking' actually does is hide the person from you. But they're still free to stalk and do as they please. I just tested this out for myself using my other account and sure enough, it's true.

I just want to know, how is this acceptable? I bet you that if I called out this user publically, I would probably end up in hot water myself for harassment or something. And yet 'blocking' is completely fkn useless too. So what recourse does a user actually have here when faced with a hostile user that wants to ruin their experience on Lemmy?

Coming from Blåhaj, I thought I would try 'moderating' my own experience for a bit. But you can't 'moderate' your own experience if the tools to do so are fkn useless and only trick you into thinking that something has been achieved, without actually doing anything useful.

And now I'm starting to see a new value in instances like Blåhaj. Because you actually need admins that give a shit around here or else you're just left to the wolves on a platform that seems more interested in protecting abusive users than allowing users to protect themselves.

Edit: watching you all upvote the person talking shit about how this works on other platforms while downvoting the actual correct information that comes with a source has certainly taught me a thing or two about this platform and the people on it. You all actually prefer misinformation to fact as long as it suits your vibe or opinion more. Like a bunch of fkn MAGAs. I really wish there was a way to disable notifications for this post (another feature missing here) because watching you people upvote misinformation is enough to make me no longer give a flying fuck what anyone here says or thinks.

[request] Something like Fediblock but for naming and shaming users in c/findacommunity@lemmy.ml
[–] Character_Locked@lemm.ee -4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Oh great. Glad to know that Lemmy looks out for its users. /s

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[request] Something like Fediblock but for naming and shaming users (lemm.ee)
 

Just had one single person go through my entire profile and downvote every comment and post except for those that I assume they're de-federated from. And now, thanks to this nifty little tool at votes.gregtech.eu, you can see exactly who has voted on your posts in most cases. So I was able to block this person and avoid having a stalker downvoting everything I post.

IMO, users like this should be named and shamed so that everyone else has a chance to block them and remove bad actors from their Lemmy experience. We've got !fediblock@lemmy.dbzer0.com for admins to sus out bad instances. Why not something like that but for users to sus out other users? Or would that count as doxxing or something?

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"Subscribe pending" after importing into a new account (lemm.ee)
 

I hope this is a suitable place to ask about this. I've noticed now after 3 account migrations that no matter which instance you import settings into, all of your subscriptions end up stuck listed as "Subscribe pending". Functionally, everything works as it should though, and all of those communities still show up in your Subscribed feed. It's just an eyesore / annoyance.

You can get them to properly say "Subscribed" again by unsubbing and resubbing but eventually I might end up with a huge list of communities to do this with any time I try another instance. Is there any way to resolve this besides unsubbing and resubbing one by one?

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Postcard from abroad (lemm.ee)
 

Hi Blåhaj. I've been wondering if it's a good idea posting here seeing as only Blåhaj users have made posts here before. I don't see a rule that others can't welcome themselves to this instance though, so forgive me if I'm doing a bad.

I'm not actually sure new here, so I also feel obligated to post this for anyone that might have seen my other account around, as well as the sake of admins and moderators around here. My Blåhaj account is @Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone. Not running away from anything here, just exploring. I'll probably be mainly using this lemm.ee account from now for the next few months at least, even when I post here in Blåhaj communities.

I'm planning on eventually settling on Piefed or mbin once there's decent app support for either (preferably Piefed) and hopefully by then I'll have finally settled on a new online handle that I'll be happy with for the foreseeable future.

I decided on a new instance for now because I haven't seen much of what Lemmy really looks like outside of Blåhaj yet since I got here. But I'll still be at the very least lurking and upvoting around here.

So I hope this post is ok here from a non Blåhaj account. Blåhaj is my Fediverse homeland, I'm just using a foreign passport with a temp name right now.

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