Chriskmee

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[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Yup, stuck in a loop, maybe try licking that boot like you keep dreaming of, maybe it will help

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Remember that we already said 10M was below the cutoff of the wealth tax, so they aren't being taxed heavily. Furthermore, they should be able to live their whole life without investing it if they are already like 35.

I think you underestimate how fast $10M can be spent. There is a reason why most lottery winners go broke.

Whoa, so they can't afford toys that should generally be banned for ecological reasons anyway? Again, if you can't figure out how to live a happy life without a personal plane, you probably need to go to rich guy rehab. Just fucking find some cozy spot and live in idle luxury.

So basically you want them to just live like you do, without any extra luxuries? I'm guessing they also can only afford a modest house since even a normal house is $500k+ and then triple that if they have a mortgage.

I don't think it's a problem if people own a private plane as a hobby (you know, like a private pilot) or a big boat for enjoyment. I'm not talking about crazy expensive stuff here, even middle class people are owning private planes.

People don't functionally own land, they nominally own it at the mercy of the state. Many things work this way. Your problem is that you can't see beyond a narrow paradigm of how society is organized, as though a particular version of liberalism was ordained by God as being the natural order. It is not.

You and others here have explained your version of liberalism, I believe you call it Marxism, right? I don't believe it's the answer for anyone but communist countries like China, and I don't think that's the answer for the US or most other countries. Do you have another version you are proposing?

Turns out money laundering can actually be stopped and assets can and have actually been seized for various reasons.

We aren't talking about money laundering or anything illegal, we are talking about people wanting to move for a better life. Only the worst of the worst countries will punish you by stealing everything from you simply for leaving.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Were you not suggesting we require all the tax breaks over the last however many years be paid back in full? If not I just have been mixing you up with one of the other dozens of far left crazies I've been chatting with.

If you just want to repeal tax breaks that didn't have a guaranteed life that hasn't been reached yet, then that's fine I would probably agree to it depending on the side effects it might cause the middle and lower classes.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (11 children)

I think you are stuck in a loop now, are you capable of saying anything different?

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

but it objectively is a large amount of wealth for one person to have, enough to never work again.

If they drastically reduced their lifestyle, don't get taxed heavily, and are able to invest it, then sure. However if you don't allow them to invest and they don't drastically reduce their standard of living, that's not nearly enough to retire on.

Even a fairly modest personal plane or small yacht will cost a million or more over years of use.

but I don't think I can teach you how to do philosophy coherently.

If your idea of philosophy involves theft, I don't think I want to learn it from you.

That is to say, in this hypothetical, large-scale capital flight is illegal,

Ah, this concept is so insane that I just can't imagine it ever happening. In reality the companies and rich would leave and there would be nothing you could do to stop it.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (20 children)

This doesn't happen with financial assets though, at least not that I've heard of. Can you name an example of " we are going to give you a break on these taxes or fees" then that turns into "you did nothing wrong, but we are going to want those 20 years of unpaid taxes/fees that we told you that you didn't need to pay, we changed our minds".

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (13 children)

So whose boots do you want to lick so badly?

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

10M is nothing to someone who owns billions, it's all a matter of perspective. I have a problem with people who use or suggest immoral actions, and that includes you. Stealing from anyone is immoral, I don't care how much they have or how big of a company it is.

What is against the law here? It's not illegal to move your business outside the country, it's not illegal to leave the country, what you are assuming is illegal is actually perfectly legal. It's not smuggling if you are just moving legal goods. Even you can leave a country like the US and transfer your money to wherever you go, it's not illegal at all.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yes, I am. It's as easy as "don't engage in capital flight" to not get hit by it. We can even be generous enough to leave them just a tiny bit, say 1% if they have exactly 1B, since 10M is quite a lot for a human.

You are suggesting the most immoral thing I've heard yet. To just take everything from someone and leave them with nothing just because they want to leave the area that is hostile to them. Oh wait, nevermind, this sounds exactly like someone as communist would say, and something communist countries have done in the past.

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Glad we can agree on something finally!

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Again with the bootlicking, just go ahead and do it already, get it out of your system, it's obvious you have the desire, so just go do it!

[–] Chriskmee@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it will.

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