Darkcommie

I would hope one is not basing their organization with others on probabilities of whether someone committed atrocities, rather than concrete information on whether they did and whether they have turned around as a person.

Already talked about this

Do you really want to ally with someone who had a very good chance of having committed atrocities during their services regardless of if they felt bad about it? And even if they committed no war crimes why should we recruit them?

I don’t know that I would personally trust imperial core combat veterans as combatants in a revolutionary context, but it’s possible they could still provide advice and training under the right kind of supervision.

Most of these frontline infantry men have served in Iraq or Afghanistan any advice they give is going to be useless for whatever type of war you think you’ll be fighting 1) tactics and habits learned in counter insurgency doesn't translate to running and operating an actual insurgency 2) the type of war they're involved in is outdated 3) literally just train

That said, plenty of veterans won’t have been direct combatants but could still have logistical skills or advice, or knowledge from basic training that they can help others get on track with.

Again

Unless their specialised they have nothing to offer

But this feels a bit navel-gazing out of context of an actual revolutionary vanguard party. There does not appear to be that much of a “left” in the US for example and in the current climate, a civil war between constitutional loyalists and Trumpian fascists seems more likely than a “left” revolution.

I agree which makes me wonder what the point if all this arguing is

They’ve worked together in both Afghanistan and Iraq it’s identical

Doesn’t matter what you mean I was very specifically referring to content creators who were veterans and made content appealing to other veterans the fact that all of these people happen to be douchebags and scum doesn't bode well to the politics to the veteran community

I am being reductionist in regards to their politics because thats their politics look at their voting habits and look at the shit they’re spewing every time they open their mouth

Also let’s examine your point here

Minority veterans, for example, are probably going to be closer to something politically that could be an ally, or at least not getting in the way

Do you really want to ally with someone who had a very good chance of having committed atrocities during their services regardless of if they felt bad about it? And even if they committed no war crimes why should we recruit them?

Venezuela is currently hiring I think

you’d be surprised to learn how much experience actually matters in combat and how much of what your describing is actually from training not from combat

Theres no difference between adf vets and us vets other than their nationality Ive only mentioned the report because the similarity in how the adf and the us operated in Afghanistan is staggering

Content creators im referring to are YouTubers twitch streamers etc

Why are you so keen on trying to recruit veterans? Unless their specialised they have nothing to offer

Oh nvm mind guaranteed war criminal

To the surprise of no one the white devil is in fact a white devil

Even at their best westerners can’t help themselves but fawn over child killers

How does Hasan sell a “positive version of masculinity”? If anything he falls into the same trappings as other “positive” role models do

Cosplaying as people risking their lives to save their families and homes when you’re not in that sort of danger

Tempted to join

Forgot to mention you could also read books on insurgencies and train in their tactics being an insurgent is different from a common soldier