And he's a fucking genius. Because, as far as I can tell, all of his trans jokes are really funny or nuanced. But his handicap jokes, some of them are just downright lame and insulting.

And everyone's coming after him for his trans jokes, not his handicap jokes.

You can't punch down on transpeople, their propaganda reach is massive. People are AFRAID to say the littlest bit negative about them.

That's why the handicap jokes. He wanted to show what actually happens when you punch down: nothing. No one gives a shit.

Anyway, that's my headcanon. Otherwise, some of these handicap jokes are completely inexcusable and don't live up to the standard set by his trans jokes.

America is the most democratic of all the super powers.

I'm also pretty sure that all countries with better equality and democracy rely on American military / NATO for their national security.

America looks pretty good to me.

If by "debts and obligations" you mean nukes. That makes total sense.

It's not a random message board. It's THIS message board, THIS thread. The one that you're contributing to right now. The one where you've decided to argue against the person condemning genocide instead of arguing against the person calling for genocide.

The opponents were not the ones coughing. Don’t gaslight.
How can you be this dense? Where did I say that the opponents were coughing? Nowhere. So try again to understand what I'm saying because you clearly didn't understand and I don't know how to make it any more clear. Read what I said again and I recommend you try to use your brain this time.

And their quote was in big letters in a box by itself with no context
There was context: the content of the article calling for increased ability for individual parents to have control over what their kids are taught. This opposes the concept of centralized control over what children are taught which is what the Hitler quote was promoting.

The weird thing is that I'm still fairly confident that the Moms of Liberty do have as their end goal to gain control over education curriculum and make it heavily ideologically based on their own anti-lgbtq+, pro religious and eventually racist ideology. But all this "evidence" you're giving me is starting to make me wonder if I've been bamboozled.

None of this changes the fact that you still have failed to condemn a comment on this very thread that is part of your community, supported by your community and is calling for genocide. Which is IMO still far worse than anything I've seen you (possibly falsely) accused the Moms of Liberty of doing.

I can see that very little is ever clear to you except your preconceived notions.

Obviously, I meant that it was the opponents of the Moms for Liberty that were attempting to humiliate the Moms for Liberty by calling for a moment of silence.

And you keep saying "quoting Hitler" as if that was an indictment on their (the Moms of Liberty) character. They were quoting Hitler in condemnation to his statement, not in support of it.

Just from a couple of passing references in the passed, I already basically assumed they were far right anti lgbtq+ pieces of shit.

It's just now when I see all the "evidence" you're giving in support of that I'm almost reconsidering my original position... Ok, but not really.

They coughed during a moment of silent purportedly to be in recognition of the victims of the holocausts but the context is clear that the intent was just to humiliate this particular political group.

That's not evidence of anything. It's just another nothing burger.

It literally cannot get any more ironic.

You missed the part where this particle gripe is how someone is refusing to apologize for wrongdoing. And they be out here doubling down on their stances that calling for genocide is perfectly fine if you label the people you want to genocide as Nazis.

The levels of irony here are shooting through the roof. And they seem to be doing it all with a straight face too.

I'm searching so hard for the slightest whiff of sanity and I've found absolutely nothing yet.

The quality of my comments have been so abysmal I see. And jokingly calling for genocide is one of the best quality comments on this thread.

I accidently replied as a top comment here: https://kbin.social/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/133199/-/comment/522700

At the very least downvote it. There's now EIGHTEEN upvotes, 2 boosts, and I'm still the only downvote on that comment. And I know people can find the downvote button because I can see how many downvotes I'm getting.

Moderators here don't have a rule against calls for violence. I already reported it, but technically it's not against the rules. Which I can understand in a politics magazine where war can be a topic of discussion, you don't want to be banning people when for example the government is actively engaging in mass murder (e.g. like the Rwanda genocide) and a commenter is saying that the people should defend themselves with lethal force if necessary.

EDIT: Also my post was intended as a reply to someone else, I'm still getting used to the UI can accidentally making a top level comment instead of a reply.

"But guess who it is that I see acting in bad faith right now? You."

Yeah, can you explain this a bit more?

Yes I can. But also, I have to apologize, saying "bad faith" was definitely going a bit too far. What you're doing is being exceedingly and ironically uncharitable.

I'm guessing that the Moms of Liberty have quite a lot of statements to make the but the one in the newsletter that contained the quote was about giving parents more control over their children's education. THAT is the topic of discussion (or at least what they present as their side of the discussion, their true agenda may differ).

Opponents to Moms of Liberty are derailing the topic of discussion by making it about quoting Hitler. This particular article quotes a member of Moms of Liberty advocating for not apologizing, because if they apologize that will become the story instead of the actual thing she wanted to talk about.

Then you come on here and say, don't let them derail the conversation by bringing it back to the thing they actually want to talk about.

In contrast, you’re associating me with some quote about killing “far-right shitbirds” because…why? I’m not seeing the logic of the association between me and that quote or about how I’m acting in bad faith.

Because it is a quote by someone on this very thread with 14 upvotes. This is a member of your community and they're popularly supported and you've done nothing to reign them in.