NeverNudeNo13

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[–] NeverNudeNo13 -1 points 2 years ago

I provided data specifically to that point to allow anyone to read further... Looks like you skipped that step. You also skipped over the fact that I was specifically talking about the Palestinian leadership of that era, which I purposefully and intentionally differentiate from the Palestinian population as a whole. Most of the general population of Israelis and Palestinians are sick of the conflicts their leadership continuously escalate and in general, both sides would prefer to seek long term peace.

You claim that I'm framing with our context... but it would appear you completely skipped the context provided and reframed critical components of the data that was provided to fit your own bias.

[–] NeverNudeNo13 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It's been an extraordinary well documented tactic of the HAMAS... they teach children their highest calling they can achieve in life is to take the lives of Israelis through suicide attacks and to kill as many Israelis that they can by any violent means necessary. They push military caches into schools and hospitals that force civilian men, women, and children to risk their lives in order to gain access to essential humanitarian services which are already extremely limited. HAMAS literally will hold their own palestinians hostage in buildings that Israel intends to attack in order to intentionally maximize the civilian casualties.

They rape and torture their prisoners. They murder homosexuals.

All while constantly bombarding Israelis with rockets in order to force defensive counterstrikes from Israel. Randomly stabbing men, women, and children on the street with essentially no provocation.

https://youtu.be/VEcaI7zQG3E?si=g7UIh04AqtRHl0n3

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/the-roots-of-the-palestinian-uprising-against-israel/410944/

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-israel-immigration-west-bank-gay-rights-ce95f6903faf461502cc0800b272b159

Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza - NATO StratCom https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf

Palestinian leadership was literally aligned and allied to the Nazi party during WW2.

So in truth, it's not just tough to hold a moral high ground... It's impossible when there is not even the faintest glimmer of conceptualizing what morality even is.

HAMAS must be excoriated from the face of the planet and never allowed to reoccur again. For the peace and stability of the Palestinian people and for the world.

[–] NeverNudeNo13 2 points 2 years ago

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/how-iran-fuels-hamas-terrorism

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/irans-revolutionary-guards

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/israel%E2%80%93hamas-war-iran-update

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/arafat-and-the-ayatollahs

... It has always been the fucking Iranian Revolutionary Government...

If not for the Iranian Revolutionary Government... We could have easily have had both a Palestinian state (which has never existed) and peace between Palestine and Israel, with not much stretch of the imagination.

Also in not much stretch of the imagination... Iran could have continued from here... https://www.businessinsider.com/iran-before-the-revolution-in-photos-2015-4

And who knows where they would be now..

Certainly not here...

https://iranwire.com/en/women/114163-they-shot-me-sister-the-women-victims-of-iran-protest-crackdown/

[–] NeverNudeNo13 92 points 2 years ago (30 children)

The air strike is in dispute, HAMAS claims Israel, Israel claims HAMAS was responsible.

A little too soon to be jumping to conclusions and I would recommend everyone practice skepticism and patience, especially with reporting is coming from extremely biased sources like al-Jazeera, or official spokespersons.

People are suffering through this from every side, and it's just so disgusting and frustrating that people are so quick to leverage the suffering of anyone in their own pointless bias confirmations. Especially so when those individuals have no ties at all to any of this and are vastly ignorant of the political/military complexities involved here.

Propaganda is designed specifically to illicit emotional reactions... So, "Don't react, wait for facts!"

[–] NeverNudeNo13 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For those of you who don't know... the caliber is usually known as 9mm Parabellum... so there is a joke in there too.

[–] NeverNudeNo13 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The bones are their money.

[–] NeverNudeNo13 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing they meant 6cm... but I don't know or really care all that much.

[–] NeverNudeNo13 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Many countries other than the US are comprised of a federation of states. And also those that aren't are generally considered nation states or sovereign states, which are still definitively states. The United States of America do not have an exclusive right on statehood.

Plus even though it may be implied that the original replier intended the context to mean the United States of America... it is a valid response with further implication that one should check their local jurisdiction's laws if they were so inclined to do so.

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