Taking his day job seriously, I see

The PLO was a terror group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'alot_massacre

Two examples off the top of my head of a terrorist group engaging in terrorist violence.

Only a handful of countries consider Hamas a terror group. Funnily enough these are the same countries that are complicit in Israel’s genocide in Gaza.

Those are also more or less the only countries I'd trust to be able to correctly identify a terrorist group.

This is a “leopards ate my face” law. It’s fine until you get caught up in it however unlikely that appears now.

I simply don't support terrorist organisations. It isn't difficult.

Personally, Threads is the only social media platform where the content on it generally improves my mood by showing me lots of funny, cute or interesting content. It's the only one where I don't feel frustrated or angry or outraged by the content the algorithm surfaces or baited. It feels like the feed wants me to smile and cheer up or learn something new, rather than baiting me into getting angry and shouting at people. That counts for a lot, to me.

Except these lot don't care about the housing crisis, they're literally looking for an excuse to smash things up

I don't think that's true in many cases. You can literally just go on YouTube and look at the Sky News, Channel 4 and ITV reportage where they interview people at these protests/riots and many of them explicitly say that the reason they're there is because of the crisis in housing, the NHS, etc. and which they pin on the scale of immigration.

I'm not agreeing with them, but when you say they're just looking for an excuse to smash things up, I think you're sort of sidelining what they themselves are often saying. Obviously the vast majority are also expressing deplorable racist prejudices too, but again, we should at least take them at their word that that's why they're on the streets.

Sure we need societal change too but that alone won't fix the issue unless these problem causes are dealt with at the root.

I don't think you can solve this at the root without a) solving the very real problem that we might very well have net immigration of 1 million this year which is fucking insane; b) meaningfully invest in local councils, public services like SureStart (or some new version of it), free English language services, and finding ways to sort of push together communities with new arrivals so that they just have to get to know each other and get along, while the new arrivals revise their opinions and values in line with the new expectations. Even that would really just be a starting point but I've had a couple of pint safter work so I don't want to overstretch myself with 'grand plans.'

And since dealing with them is much quicker than dealing with large social issues that should be the priority in the next few months.

Agreed. Smash the rioters, lock them up, then I think/hope our new government will be able to take a proper look at this issue that's been bubbling up for so many years. This violence isn't isolated, it's not about social media or Tommy Ten-Names or whoever, and it won't go away even if we lock up all the rioters. We have problems in this country which require serious, thoughtful, nuanced responess in national policy.

But, again: I want the police to fucking smash these people, slam them up in a prison cell and make them regret their vile, racist, brutal attacks on innocent people.

Thanks, I hate it

Well sure, but then is the British government on the hook for the debt that the investors are going to be calling in?

The tension is largely inflated. It exists mostly because people like Tommy Robson and Nigel Farage claim that it does.

I don't agree. They inflate tensions that pre-exist them, and I think if we keep pretending these issues don't exist, then this is only going to get worse.

Immigration is not the cause of the housing crisis, but it's also not possible to address the housing crisis without also reducing immigration because it's not possible to build housing for 700,000+ people each year. Yearly net migration of almost 1 million is not sustainable, so the number will need to come down substantially.

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Squeeze 'em til the pips squeak.

Bunch of thugs. I hope the law comes down on them like a ton of bricks. This is the absolute last thing the community needed after such an appalling slaughter.

But my worry is that in the usual (and justified) condemnation of these bastards we’re going to miss the wood for the trees.

There are real and profound divisions and tensions in this country. This is a manifestation of that. We’ve got real problems of Islamist and Far-Right radicals that we appear to just be completely ignoring and doing nothing to prevent. We’ve got pressure groups like The Muslim Vote who are engaging in sectarian Islamist politics on the one hand while Reform and even darker forces are developing in response, which is why these thugs turned up outside a Mosque – fake news spread on Twitter about the identity of the man who stabbed those kids. British Jews are terrified and wondering whether they have any future in this country. We've got riots and brawls breaking out in cities like Leicester between people of Indian and Pakistani descent, the sectarian politics of India, Hindutva and Pakistan played out in Britain.

We’ve got major problems of community cohesion and our approach to multiculturalism, insofar as we have one, clearly isn’t working.

I hope Labour will begin to address this… Communal solidarity is so crucial to this country