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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Since it's a comic I wouldn't expect the letters to be that consistent if you assume the artist is writing manually, but otoh the specific font being used looks exactly like the font in every ChatGPT comic.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

but it’s a lot easier to have free range chickens than it is to have cows doing the same.

I don't know about that, it's pretty difficult to keep (what I would consider) genuinely free range chickens because of predators and various other factors (the need to keep them away from wild birds because of bird flu comes to mind), and the commercial definition of free range doesn't necessarily guarantee a good quality of life. There's also how meat chickens are mostly all a specific type of crossbreed that is perpetually hungry, prone to cannibalism and health problems, and not meant to live longer than a few months.

But even if you could say that the average chicken raised for meat is better off than the average cow raised for meat, there's still how you need vastly more of them for the same amount of meat, so if their lives are still a net negative and you're weighing it by sum of individual experiences, it could be considered worse from a utilitarian perspective because of the numbers.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I mean, isn't the bad stuff also still "relevant" though? What's the standard there? The Bible also says to treat people terribly, in ways that do seem relevant to modern life. Maybe we don't have literal slaves in the same way, but we accept coercive and underpaid labor conditions for immigrants. There's a part that says to kill homosexuals, and it's not like hate crimes aren't still a reality. Don't you have to ignore the parts you don't like in order to only follow the parts that say to care for others?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (12 children)

I personally don't eat red meat, and I agree it's worse for climate change, but I've heard the argument that meat from larger animals is more ethical, because to get the same amount of meat from smaller animals means a much larger number of them have to die, and I'm not sure how to weigh that against the climate, assuming that someone isn't going to give up meat entirely.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It would’ve prevented the guy we’re both talking about from sneaking a bomb on the plane in his shoe.

He would have known they were going to make him take his shoes off and so tried something else instead that would probably have been more likely to work.

I think they’re taking it away because people don’t like doing it.

But we've never liked doing it

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Well I also remember that, but it doesn't mean making people take their shoes off actually improves safety. And the point I'm making here is, if they are not doing that anymore, doesn't it mean they don't think it helps? If it doesn't help now, then why would it have ever helped?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (7 children)

So it was always useless bullshit? You'd think tensions would be ramping up at this point in terms of terrorism threats

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Isn't Craigslist still around?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Could this be done such that a person cannot prove that they voted a certain way (the source of the problems people mention, like vote selling becoming viable)?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well what I'm seeing in this thread is two metrics, BLS and LISEP, with the argument being that the distinction between them doesn't matter because unemployment is right now historically low by both measures (I don't really know the difference between them myself, or whether these are the only meaningful ways to measure it). And you're reiterating that there exists some measure where it is high, but I think for that to be a convincing counterargument you would need to say more about what that measure is, show that unemployment is high by that measure, and make an argument why that specific way of measuring things is more relevant than the other ones.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

Why not a one to two year break?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

The comments you're responding to are not making that kind of general argument though, they are only talking about whether a specific claim makes sense. If it doesn't make sense, that doesn't necessarily mean our economic system is working for us, maybe it means that whatever problems exist would be better quantified in a different way.

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