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[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

The idea of "AI solving" some social crisis is a farce. The problem isn't that we don't know what policies will improve the situation. An AI program or a simulation doesn't have the political power necessary to solve any of these problems.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 7 points 6 days ago

You make a good point that law shouldn't be applied based off belief.

However, and I'm not saying this in regard to your point but as an independent sidenote, we must remember that Sewer isn't just someone who believes things, they lead a violent cult. They've been repeatedly convicted of affray and violent disorder among other things. Neo-Nazism isn't some abstract harmless idea, and given their context, these threats are not the same as if you or I performed them.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Whether or not you meant it, your post is quite poetic. A tragedy in two lines, or perhaps a koan, the irony of their true inactivity screaming out to them in vain.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Do you know if anyone's tried to contact the person running all those accounts? Their Lemmy accounts would be flooded with post replies so I doubt the owner even looks at them. I don't have a microblog account so let's see if this ping works:

@Dwazoup@mastodon.social, hello! I'd like to hear your point of view on these posts :)

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I think the video is a bit mistitled since it's a single house inspection but it's a solid glance in to the trends of current properties.

(The real welcome to our property nightmare IMO would be looking through Site Inspection's videos and seeing million dollar homes with balcony supports made of styrofoam, mold bait windows, exposed screws and floating supports.)

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As they mentioned, the Eureka flag has long been associated with the labour movement here. Some of the Rail Tram Bus Union comrades have it printed on their jacket's arm, CMFEU fly it next to their union flag on sites, and I've seen it flown consistently at Gaza rallies by union socialists (including sometimes a red variant similar to my profile image).

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

Props to the few who did stand up to them, who are highlighted in the video.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the detailed reply.

It doesn’t suggest that speculative vacancies are a driver of the housing crisis in Australia.

I was quoting that to explain that speculative vacancy can be a valid, highly profitable strategy for investors. That quote alone isn't evidence, yes.

An investor reluctant to “shell out” for upkeep and maintenance is exactly the type of investor that needs the regular rent income to help cover the other costs of ownership like rates, body corporate, interest, et cetera.

I don't understand how this can be assumed. Investors wanting to reduce cost and risk doesn't imply they need regular income. Rich investment funds would have the same incentive to do that, right?

They do however demonstrate that vacancy is not the cause of the current housing crisis.

Yes, it's not going to be the cause. There isn't going to be a single cause, like you said it isn't even the only cause of mass vacancy. In fact, given it's used as a long-term investment strategy, I suspect that this is a long-term factor that enabled or accelerated the crisis, rather than being an immediate catalyst that suddenly happened a few years ago.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Results were wildly different in different rallies. For example, in Sydney, the crowd was about 50:50 on boos and cheers for the neo-Nazi speaker. This is very different to Adelaide where the organisers rightfully (albeit far too late) tried to deplatform the NSN once they took to the stage and spewed their garbage, leading to a fight and the end of the event.

I believe it was only the Sydney one that let one of them speak

They owned the only microphone being used at the Townsville rally and they owned the podium used in the Melbourne rally with widely-used footage of Sewer speaking there. So you have to be pretty out of the loop if you honestly believe that.

Just because some bad people try to co-opt something it doesn’t mean that they were bad people protests. The overwhelming majority of people there were there for the stated reasons, none of which were racist or “neo nazi”.

We can't generalise everyone, you're right that a majority probably wouldn't have supported neo-Nazis, many in larger rallies may not have seen them there before they took the stage, and plenty of attendees I wouldn't consider to be racists, even if they're expressing or supporting racist rhetoric. But this doesn't change the fact that most of them attended a racist rally and should understand that and learn for next time this nationalist cover is tried.

It was co-opted before 99% of the people going there even heard of it. It was well-publicised in advance that many organisers were known neo-Nazis and white supremacists. The official promotions kept posting racist rhetoric about Indians, framing European immigration as acceptable. At the end of the day, it was largely a neo-Nazi attempt to appeal to broader nationalists, with some, limited, success. There were plenty of cheers among the boos during their speeches. "The overwhelming majority" didn't fuck off or fight back once literal Nazis took the stage, and in most cases, kept the stage for the whole speech.

The anti-immigration rhetoric, that the housing crisis is caused or heavily impacted by immigration, is a racist deflection of real economic issues. I'm not suggesting that people repeating the argument are racists, or even that they realise it's a racist argument. It's a very normalised argument and once even promoted by Labor politicians and mass media. But that doesn't change the fact that it's racism being used to deflect the housing crisis, the education crisis, the hospital crisis and more away from the government and the owning class. Stopping migration won't even begin to solve those issues.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There were exceptions to the rule, but taken as a whole, the organisers of the Australia ones were neo-Nazis and related cryptofascists. This was well-known in advance.


The Melbourne rally literally used Thomas Sewell's own podium that you can see in their own NSN videos.

The Townsville rally used the NSN's branded megaphone, Katter says there was no other one there.

The Sydney organiser, Bec Freedom, is a white nationalist with strong links to the NSN. Before the rally, it was well-publicised that they were a white nationalist in conversations with neo-Nazis. 1+1.

“There’s a lot of people trying to claim the rally as their own and turn it into a unity march,” Freedom said. “I understand why some people are saying it’s not about race. Though people like that … they’re scared. But if we break it down, this is how I tried to explain it to somebody. I said, OK, so protect Australian heritage, culture, way of life. Next step, protect European culture, heritage, way of life. The next step is protect white heritage."

'Auspill', one of the earliest and central promoters has strong known links to the NSN and creates memes supporting esoteric Nazism concepts like Hyperborea. In a word, Auspill is a Nazi.

The main March for Australia website originally had and then redacted a call for the neo-Nazi wolf-whistle of 'remigration', you can see this in archived copies of the website and it was widely reported. The rally Facebook page consistently and repeatedly advocated for including the NSN at the march and downplayed them.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't tried any Piefeds or mbins. My impression is similar to yours: interpreted language and "no fancy design patterns" gives me the idea it's probably great for quickly prototyping new features like categories and moderation tools, possibly at the cost of performance. If you're looking at hosting, maybe reach out to a few piefed admins, ask what they think about it and if/when they tried Lemmy for a comparison.

The great thing about the Fediverse is afaik you can test other instances and even other softwares while still getting access to the same communities and posts.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

None of them except the first paragraph are false, and even that one could be true if it were qualified instead of generalised.

They have biases, they might suggest and emphasise parts inappropriately, but the fact is this event, or rather these events were more complex than most articles or comment sections said.

Even some of my earlier comments were affected by missing information, generalisation and a bit of shock. For example, after having talked to a few different (socialist) people who were present visiting the racist rallies in Sydney, they pointed out that:

  • The NSN were being sneaky in how they represented themselves, such as not leading the march out of Belmore Park, but then having a dozen of them jump to the front once the march was underway for the photo ops. Most of the people in the march would not have seen this at all.
  • There were only about 30 of them, many out of uniform
  • When they went up to speak, there was the same generic applause that other speakers got, and about half the reactions were boos instead of cheers once they started saying things, with many leaving
  • Their attempted march on Newtown just got redirected down a side street where they changed clothes and went to the train station

Now, this does not change that it was well-known and well-publicised in advance that neo-Nazi organisations would be present, that they were involved in the organisation of many of the events and the main website.

It does not change that the protests themselves were based upon racist deflectionary arguments, including ones made by Labor members. This doesn't mean all marchers are inherently racist, or that they were aware of the racism, but they're repeating and supporting racist claims that immigration is to blame for various crises, or that some cultures (read: non-white cultures) are a major problem while others aren't.

It does not change that a large amount of attendees were openly white nationalists, and that a large amount of attendees were knowingly tolerant of neo-Nazis. It does not change that the attendees who didn't contest the Nazis accepted and emboldened them.

But we should try to avoid being careless and suggesting that everyone there is irredeemable and was there to be racist. It was foolish, ignorant and harmful for them to attend. But in my opinion, this was a way for many people to voice legitimate grievances which they believed were unvoiced, like housing. And so long as Liberals and Labor deflect that crisis onto immigrants, and as long as those to the left can't get their voices heard in the mainstream, fascists will be there to collect their rage. If you want to stop neo-Nazis from being validated, we have to let citizens know we're fighting for them.

 

In Western Australia, a rally in Albany, on the state's south coast, has drawn low numbers.

Six people gathered around a Eureka flag in the centre of town, while another six people gathered in opposition.

Apart from some minimal interaction between the groups, the event proceeded without any further incident.

— ABC Great Southern

 
Introduction & Background

For those who haven't heard, after the recent "March for Humanity" (the massive Palestine protests which included the Sydney Harbour Bridge march), some social media and later news articles have fueled hype for a nationalist anti-immigration counter-protest, the "March for Australia" this Sunday.

Notably, the people organising the event have been very secretive about themselves, leading to tensions among the groups who make up this march's main audience (various generic patriotism, generic 'right-wing', anti-vax, Zionist groups and White Nationalist groups), and leading to notable figureheads and influencers advising their fans against joining.

To anyone who did bother looking, or even just read their brief coverage in news articles after the initial wave, it's become clearer and clearer that the organising circle behind the curtain are made up of literal, self-identifying neo-Nazis and their surrounding ring of associated White Nationalist influencers (crypto-fascists like Auspill^[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq9Qlr9Q62M, may require a VPN to watch due to a legal takedown attempt by Auspill] and Bec Freedom) who are a bit more palatable to the 'right-wing' than open Hitler fans. The official announcements from organisers have consistently argued for the inclusion and against the exclusion of Nazi groups (oh, sorry, "people and groups on the right many consider controversial").

Articles for further reading: [Independent Australia article] [pedestrian.tv article]

What this ultimately means is, the "March for Australia" is a project by neo-Nazis and other White Supremacists using toned-down, big-tent, populist rhetoric with the intent of conning regular patriots and nationalists into standing alongside them "for Australia". This is a known and often-used tactic for the NSN, and although these Nazis have a history of rejection in their recruitment attempts among conservative and anti-vax protests (alongside some limited recruitment success) because even cookers usually know Nazis are scum, however this event, if it were seen as a success, would symbolise popularity or increased acceptance for the Nazis and White Nationalists among the broader normal nationalists and 'right-wing'.


The actual post

I've been a little concerned that such a big-tent nationalist cause, despite the tensions and fractures, could turn out crowds of thousands who mistakenly think they're just supporting the country and fighting against extremism or protecting their communities. Allowing such a protest to look big, to look like it's representing the community at large, is a serious issue.

And, I was wondering what kind of support there would be for the counter-protests popping up against these crypto-fascist rallies, because I've been to a lot of tiny protests before, where we have more people honking support from vehicles than with us on the ground. (I was also worried about Sydney in particular^[Sydney had the regular weekend PAG rally in Hyde Park promoting itself, as well as an explicit counter-protest concert over in Prince Alfred Park run by a coalition of pro-refugee and anti-racist groups, splitting up the counter-protest. However, I'm glad to hear they've now announced they'll do what I hoped they would - the pro-refugee concert will run from 10:30am for a couple of hours before marching to Belmore Park where the March for Australia will be if they haven't scampered yet, and then onto Hyde Park to join up with the regular PAG Gaza protest].

This Sunday's pro-Palestine protests marked the first (large) protests of its kind in many cities and towns and showed that the broad anti-genocide movement has enough momentum to continue mobilising in the hundreds of thousands. And I reckon they have enough mass to continue onto this week for a proper show of popular resistance against the so-called "March for Australia".

 

The White Rose Society media article being referenced in this video, worth a read: https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/9-principles-for-journalists-reporting-on-neo-nazis

The NSN's own manual details their strategy and corresponding tactics for using mass media for recruitment, and our neglectful media has generally played into their hand (with some exceptions) and mostly shown them the way they want to be seen, so it's vital to amplify and share around the things they don't want seen.

So, please, do your part and share this around.


If you want some more lighthearted individual exposés, here Tom's videos on:

 

Organisers of today’s pro-Palestine protest in Sydney have successfully addressed Premier Minns’ ‘concerns’ about the impact it would have on traffic, by seemingly getting the whole city off the roads and marching along side them.

“Turns out roughly a hundred thousand people wanted to cross the bridge at the time of the march,” said one organiser, “which would have been the worst traffic Sydney has ever seen, but luckily they were all protesters walking around so it was fine.”

The peaceful protest, which Minns wanted to have police break-up by force, has potentially broken records both in terms of protest size, and lack of car accidents in Sydney on a rainy day.

[...]

 

lil fella scurried along unfazed but it made a quiet *dong*.

 

Other news source: ABC's The Business - https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Pc1U4Rsfs

The [Finance Sector Union] said the roles being advertised by CBA India had the exact same job titles as those impacted by the redundancies.

"We do not believe that the redundancies outlined in these change processes are in fact genuine redundancies and that in doing so, CBA has breached the terms of the Agreement,” [FSU National Secretary] Ms Angrisano said, pointing out that genuine redundancies mean the role is no longer required. This is the very definition of bad faith.”

“All Australians are paying for the sham redundancy actions of the CBA. Not only are Australian workers being unfairly and reasonably sacked but this is being subsidised by all taxpayers.

“Bona fide redundancies are taxed concessionally in the hands of the workers. It is especially disgusting that the nation’s richest company is also reducing the tax take as it makes the final payment to hundreds of Australians that we know are being sacked solely to have their work performed offshore.”

 

This video covers:

  • Why the NSN nazi org typically resort to cowardly flash-mobbing at 3:30am when no-one is around
  • What they aim to achieve through flash mobs, and in their own words, the effect they want to have in media
  • How the way we share news of these events can promote their group (increasing its funding and its ability to form a legal political party)
  • Exclusive footage of those nazis getting beaten up

Since this is an important topic, especially for social media users, please share this video to other communities!

(I was late to watch and share so that Anti-Racism Action event mentioned at the very end has already happened.)

 

OP article: 17 May 2025

Alternate article- Student general meeting demands USyd drop specious definition of antisemitism, cut ties with Israel - 18 May 2025

USyd response statement - University of Sydney does not condone student resolution: statement: 21 May 2025


Selected paragraphs:

Over 200 students packed a Student General Meeting at the University of Sydney this week, overwhelmingly rejecting the university’s new definition of antisemitism, designed to smear supporters of Palestine, and standing up to a crackdown on the right to protest.

The new Universities Australia definition of antisemitism, adopted by nearly all Australian universities, states that criticism of Israel can be antisemitic “when it calls for the elimination of the State of Israel”. It draws heavily on the widely-condemned International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition which has been opposed by organisations like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

In the end, only two students voted against any of the motions. It was an incredibly important moment for the movement on campus in a context where the right to support Palestine is under serious attack.

When two Zionist students spoke against the motions, calling pro-Palestine protesters antisemitic and condemning Hamas, the entire auditorium turned their backs on them. In response to their claims, an anti-Zionist student from a Jewish family spoke in support of the motion to support the one-state solution, telling the crowd: “I’m tired of being represented by Jewish people that think defending the state of Israel is valid, so I decided to come and speak for myself.”

In the lead-up to the meeting, the University had also threatened to cancel the room booking for the SGM unless the meeting was recorded and every student who wanted to attend presented their identification to security. These demands were dropped after opposition from the SRC.

 

I love putting things in boxes, it's my hobby you see, so I'd like to hear other people's thoughts and perspectives on this.

But my point is pretty straightforward: there is an overarching aussie.zone community, and as long as the sidebars are well-connected to aid discovery (and they're already pretty good), there's no point in having news and politics spread across three different communities, and we just end up with redundant crossposting creating parallel conversations.

It would be great to clarify the relationship between /c/australia, /c/news and /c/australianpolitics.

 

I'm headed for the MUA march in town, it's great having a yarn with all the other workers in the pub afterwards.

 

This interview is notable for asking some questions from a different perspective to most opinions I've seen. The questions include: (paraphrased)

  • What are the aims of the tarrifs, and will they achieve it? (spoiler: lol no)
  • Do the US mega-rich support Trump’s tariffs?
  • How do they fit into Trump's broader foreign policy?
  • Do these tarrifs spell the end of globalisation?
  • Will these lead to further decoupling from the Global South, allowing them to pursue more autonomous development strategies?
  • What position should working-class forces take towards these tariffs and talk of retaliatory tariffs from other countries, whether in the Global North or South?
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