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@MasterBlaster I didn't mention its disruptive effect on intellectual/artistic labour. I brought up the fact that these generative platforms are created and run by companies who have their fingers wrist-deep in current successful far-right movements, and that the AI aesthetic has become the aesthetic of these movements.

I don't think Yogthis is using a generative LLM produced by China on their computer. I looked around; there are two of them, and neither seem to have their source published on an English-speaking website. So unless one goes through the trouble of tracking down working links for ERNIE or Alibaba's generative AI source codes and implementing them off of Chinese instructions, you are using the software and the aesthetic of these fascist companies, therefore normalizing it and benefiting it.

Edit: God, they even responded to someone asking for the source with an AI-generated answer that only links chatbot source codes and only touches on one of the above two mentioned generative AIs out of China (which, again, doesn't have a working link that I could find; it's based on a model by PaddlePaddle, which you can get, but ERNIE's text-to-image AI itself seems to be gone from the English internet).

@yogthos you uh, couldn't even have given those "couple of points" yourself and had to ask an AI to even do that for you?

Frankly, it looks like a paper tiger. It calls out one organization that is involved in lawsuits against generative AI companies and acts shocked that it's backed by large corporations. Of course it is. But no one that you'll ever meet really gives a damn about these lawsuits; no one is complaining that AI is violating copyright. This organization isn't at the root of the anti-AI narrative; it's vestigial at best.

And this video seems to understand that, but you don't: Even the title states that the organization uses the anti-AI narrative, not the other way around. However, generative AI is the fascist-corporate alliance, the evolution of the crypto and web3 bubbles into something that is tailored to the mass production and dissemination of misinformation in service to the far right. Just because some capitalist organizations are against it doesn't make it not a fascist endeavour; that's a fallacy I'd hope you understand.

Also, reactionary doesn't mean "opposed to the use of a technology".

@yogthos you uh, couldn't even have given those "couple of points" yourself and had to ask an AI to even do that for you?

Frankly, it looks like a paper tiger. It calls out one organization that is involved in lawsuits against generative AI companies and acts shocked that it's backed by large corporations. Of course it is. But no one that you'll ever meet really gives a damn about these lawsuits; no one is complaining that AI is violating copyright. This organization isn't at the root of the anti-AI narrative; it's vestigial at best.

And this video seems to understand that, but you don't: Even the title states that the organization uses the anti-AI narrative, not the other way around. However, generative AI is the fascist-corporate alliance, the evolution of the crypto and web3 bubbles into something that is tailored to the mass production and dissemination of misinformation in service to the far right. Just because some capitalist organizations are against it doesn't make it not a fascist endeavour; that's a fallacy I'd hope you understand.

Also, reactionary doesn't mean "opposed to the use of a technology".

@yogthos Stable Diffusion is open source, too. And it doesn't matter where you got it from when it comes to the fash aesthetic, which this only serves to normalize and to make left-wing pseudo-content that is significantly easier to muddy and appropriate.

And...people don't want it. The only people for whom it would be effective agitprop are the backward group.