did anyone read the link?

tldr: i'm not the one making these ridiculous claims, it was a statement made (apparently in earnest) by a loopy politician.

“You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car,” he said. However, he said he had not “done any analysis” of the difference in CO2 from a person on a bike compared to the engine of a car" 😂

so what they're really saying is they won't give it away for free

cycling? but then you're breathing out more co2 than sitting in a gas guzzling SUV?!!?

don't you wish i was joking??

@op looking back, what was the specific cringe aspect of what you described in your story?

that you'd hope for this seemingly impossible outcome, of being a positive force in an established group with a clear bigoted direction?

or that you feel foolish for relapsing into believing religious topics again?

or something else?

may i ask why you believed that and why you stopped believing?

what piece of knowledge changed things for you?

surely you already knew all the reasons why that sounds pretty fantastical, even back then?

tangent away mate

seems like i'm mostly telling people in this thread not to feel bad about their prior cringe...

i really didn't follow this closely AT ALL. but i feel like back in the day libertarian ideas were much more left of center than they are now. to my inexpert perception, it feels like libertarianism (and alot of other things) have been co-opted by conservatism over the years.

which version of the hollow earth are we talking? if you mean a giant hollow shell, then yeh i'm not sure how well supported that is.

if you mean the honeycomb earth idea, where there could be myriad of huge deep caverns. then i'm kinda open to that possibility.

(not that my geoscience knowledge extends beyond highschool geography and the odd wikipedia article - so would welcome an opportunity to discuss with someone adept.)

well yeah most of its operating software was derived from opensource projects, but capitalists exploited those opensource project without giving the tinest bit back, so...

not sure if you're being sarcastic, but if anything this news paints linux deployment in an even better light.

our strange treatment of animals

we anthropomorphise and infantilise our pets, yet boast about the animals we eat who've had legit insanity level cruel lives thanks to our systems.

[ not saying fussing over your pets is bad, i love it too, just the contrast is whiplash++ ]

lack of body autonomy

hint: most lqbqtia rights, reproductive rights, medical/medication rights, are all the SAME RIGHT:

your body, your choice.

it is constantly under attack, and diffused into separate arguments when its the one right effecting all these issues. newsflash: when it comes to my body, your unwelcome opinion, religious or otherwise, ain't worth the air its vibrating through.

slippery slope gatekeeping laws

making harmless x illegal because a subset of x might lead to harmful y. if y is bad, then enforce your ban on y, and fuckoff trying to use it as an excuse to control x₀, x₁, x₂ etc.

expect they've found a way to 'profit' off the collapse already. might be one of the reasons they're doing nothing to stop it