Just supply the dependencies with a chroot. That's how we did it before distro maintainers started including the 32bit libraries into the 64bit OS.
highball
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Just use a chroot. That's what SteamRuntime is. That's how we handled 32bit libraries on 64bit Linux distros prior to distros including them for gaming back in the day.
Don't fall for his flame bait. Linux is the number one used OS in the world. Linux dominates every market except Console and Desktop. Once Microsoft can no longer use vendor lockin to artificially maintain it's grip on the Desktop market, you'll see all kinds of engineering dollars poor into Desktop Linux from OEMs. Look at OSX, flopped in the Server market (dispite being "technically" Unix). Apple shut down an entire division (XServe), because OSX Server sucked so bad. Azure is getting dominated by Linux. Linux has 80% of the IoT market despite Windows being free for IoT. OSX and Windows only exist because of Vendor lockin.
The goal posts keep moving. I remember when it was the Year of Linux. Linux dominates every market except Desktop and Console. The Year of "Desktop" Linux is what we've shifted too. The only thing that's kept Windows the dominant OS on Desktop is vendor lockin. Windows isn't even the dominant OS on Azure. How pathetic. Without vendor lockin, Linux would have seen all kinds of money for engineering efforts from PC manufacturers for Desktop. Sad part is, so many people actually think they chose Windows.
"You can have any color car you want, as long as it's green." - Comrade Car Salesman
I'm in the same boat. Just buy games. Don't care if it's supported by Proton. If it's not now, it will be soon. That's how I feel. So far, everything I've bought has worked flawlessly.
When the new CosmicDE gets to stable, I'm 100% switching.
Funny how the "Year of Linux" had to switch to the "Year of Desktop Linux". Any place Microsoft can not use their vendor lockin strategy, some you mention, Linux eventually dominates.
Correct. Azure Linux. They've been slowly adding to their Linux distro piece by piece over the years. It's more expensive to run Windows in the cloud than it is Linux. My bet is, Office 365 will one day give you Azure Linux with a Windows userland and a Windows DE. 90% of the users probably wouldn't even know the difference. The few folks whose programs actually need Windows will probably just fall back to full Windows while the rest of everybody just uses Azure Linux; saving Microsoft millions.
Not sure why you think you are arguing. You said you didn't think Linux was taking over anytime soon and you gave your reasoning. Makes sense. I made the claim, so I gave you my reasoning. As I said I've been using Linux for almost thirty years. I'm a Software Developer, obviously I would be using Linux professionally. I can understand if you've felt the burn from all the "Arch BTW's" and the "Mint FYI" fanboys out there. Pretty sure I gave you unfanboy like advice by telling you to stop fighting a Janky mess. Get the tools you need. If that means Windows or MacOS or something else, then let that be it. That's what I did. I needed Linux for work and I liked using Linux, so that's what I used. That also meant I only had a few game titles that would reliably play. But that's what I needed. That's how it goes sometimes. That's what I gave you the same advice.
Windows is dominant only on Desktop thanks to their Vendor lockin strategy. Everywhere else, it's Linux (except game consoles). Even Linux is the dominant OS on Azure, Microsoft's cloud platform. Handheld PC's are going to SteamOS. Even Microsofts OEM partners Lenovo and Asus are getting on board with their handheld PC's. The reason they can do this is because Microsoft was forced to make Windows free on small screen devices (Build 2014). Linux has 80% of the IoT market. As Microsoft's vendor lockin strategy continues to weaken, Linux will continue to take over. It's only a matter of time. That 1-2% is only Steam Gaming world wide. For English speakers we are about 5%. Which, consequently is enough to get Day 1 Proton support for many Triple A game titles. 3-4 years from now, the games that will be releasing will have been developed from start to finish with Proton as a first class citizen. The Desktop landscape will be wildly different, no question.
Linux is a bit snappier to interact with, but everything I do works on Windows, so that arrangement means not using Linux at all, indefinitely.
Yep, sometimes that's the breaks.
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When distro maintainers started building and shipping 64bit versions, they didn't include 32bit libraries. You had to make a chroot for a 32bit distro, then symlink those libraries in among your 64bit libraries. Once distro maintainers were confident in the 64bit builds, they added 32bit libraries. In the case of Windows, Microsoft created a translation layer similar to WINE called WoW64 (Windows on Windows64). Apple is the only one who said, fuck you buy new software, to their customers. Rosetta is the first time Apple didn't tell their customers to go pound sand; probably not by choice.