ninthant

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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 6 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

They aren’t wrong to be concerned, this absolutely will wreak havoc on their business.

But also we cannot expect that their business in the US was poised to survive regardless. Theirs is the business the Americans are most specifically looking to move to their domestic manufacturing. Bombardier is fucked but they were fucked on November of last year.

So the question is not if we can keep their US contracts up, but what else they can be making with their facilities and workers. Crisis and change can be hard but it can be opportunity too.

Seize the reigns, Bombardier. You’ve got a good seat at the table and can contribute positively towards how we reshape our country’s industry and defence.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 2 points 46 minutes ago

Our aggregate response may weaken them, and that is a great thing to see start to happen and I hope we see more of it.

But the point I’m trying to make is that you don’t matter to them. I don’t matter to them. If all Canadians and Europeans and Chinese stood together they’d feel it — but you and I cannot control what all of these people do.

But we can control what we do. And it feels good to do what’s right. Even if I was the only one boycotting to American travel and products, it would still feel good. Because it’s easy to forget the humanity— you’re a person not just a consumer. As a person it feels good to act, to be active, to not just go gentle into the night.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 4 points 53 minutes ago

This work can and should and will continue, but it doesn’t need to be a cabinet level position right now.

We have our backs against the wall, and in my opinion we need to laser-focus on our absolute priorities right now.

Should we retreat from the progress made? Fuck no. Should we stop working on this? Also no.

But there is so much urgent work that needs to be done to completely retool and rework our economy and industry and national defence. We need our leaders to have focus to ensure that the steps we are taking are done with urgency and that the changes we implement are having the effects we want, and that side effects are mitigated.

So for today, for right now, I support this move. 100%

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Don’t do this because it “sends America a message.” You are one person, your decision to spend tourist dollars has a negligible effect. You do not make a difference to them.

To whatever extent an aggregate message is felt by Americans, it will be spun by their King as justification for the preexisting messaging about how the world is against them. This messaging will almost certainly be successful — it’s always easier to blame others than look inward. Americans are not exceptional, and will respond to these messages the same way people did in the days of 1930s fascism and in modern China and Russia.

So no; don’t boycott America to send them a message.

Instead, boycott American tourism and products and companies for yourself. It will feel good for your soul. It feels good to stand up for yourself, to stand with your neighbours, with your countrymen, and with our allies around the world. In a world where we can feel like powerless pawns in a game played by evil behemoths — we can at least do what’s right and feel good about that.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago
[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 24 points 14 hours ago

If he's such an embarrassment, why'd they elect him twice? I'd say he represents them.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I followed your lead on this and re-submitted it without the pathetic commentary

https://lemmy.ca/post/40863201

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Re-submitted without the related post’s asinine CPC shilling.

 

OTTAWA, March 17 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump must stop making “disrespectful” comments about Canada before the two countries can start serious talks about future ties, Prime Minister Mark Carney said on Monday.

"We've called out those comments. They're disrespectful, they're not helpful, and they ... will have to stop before we sit down and have a conversation about our broader partnership with the United States," Carney told reporters in London.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 14 points 15 hours ago

If this is the best excuse for spin that you conservative shills can come up with, I almost feel sorry for you because it’s so incredibly pathetic.

I don’t feel sorry for you though. Apply for a green card and gtfo out of my country, OP.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 36 points 22 hours ago

One of the first times I’ve ever believed anything he’s said.

Yes, lil PP, we know that you’d work against our treaty commitments, help burn the planet, and slash govt revenues in order to reward some oil execs.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

For sure. For what it’s worth I’m pretty new too. If this place continues to grow it will be a bigger target for misinformation campaigns so it’s wise to be vigilant

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some of them might be real people.

Scapegoating is an extremely successful technique. Instead of dealing with the complexities of the modern world, the supposed strong man can just give people easy and reassuring answers.

Americans problems are not because of unchecked capitalism and the wilful dismantling of the scientific, legal, economic, and political systems designed to help them. It’s because Canada, led by its Mexican Drug Cartels, are taking advantage of them.

Never mind that it’s patently stupid. Never mind that the system of getting access to our raw materials for cheap so they could process them in their countries and their industries was overwhelming as good for them as it was bad for us.

Never mind reality — what matters is that an easy answer was given. It’s not them, they don’t have to confront any harsh truths, or take any painful looks in the mirror, or have to step out of their comfort zone. The Americans were given the answer to their problems by their King, and that answer is Canada.

So the “strong man” strikes at Canada to show how tough they are. And to no one’s surprise, Canada doesn’t take it lying down. We stand up for ourselves and hit back — saying that surely when they see pain they will stop and reflect.

But no, they don’t. Because our hitting back justifies our already-established status as villain. How dare Canada threaten to levy energy exports, says the King. The Canadians have no decency.

And so, feeling the pain we caused, the Americans listen to their King, and they blame us because that is the easy answer. They don’t have to think, they don’t have to pause the sportsball game or the reality tv marathon. It was Canada all along.

So yes — there may be bots and such, but make no mistake that the vocal opposition to Canada will only grow inside America as the trade war escalates.

 

OK this title is a deliberately provocative statement, but I'll explain what I mean.

First of all, "Canada has deserved" does not imply that everyone should support PM Carney in the next election. When I talk about what Canadians deserve in this context, I mean that every political viewpoint deserves a good person to represent it. Not everyone thinks like me, and not everyone has the same objectives and preferences as me, and that's of course completely fine. Encouraged, even. If you're a dedicated lifelong leftist then yes indeed Carney is not the PM that represents your viewpoint and thus you deserve a leader who represents you. (That person's name is Charlie Angus, and the fact that he's stepping down makes me want to cry, but that's a digression).

And then for the second easy objection, obviously yes PM Carney is not a Conservative, he's the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada. Which is why my clickbait title said conservative, not Conservative. Carney does not fit amongst the likes of the reprobates in Canada's Conservative Party, or BC's Conservative Party, or Alberta's MAGA. Sorry if I got you all worked up about that.

But let's combine these ideas. It's great that people have diverse opinions and different preferences. In recent times, the excellent market-based economics of the now-failed "carbon tax" originated from within the CPC, the NDP and the left wing of the LPC brought us Pharmacare and dental care and decriminalized marijuana and much more. Going back a bit further, Paul Martin's stewardship of the economy produced a low national debt to GDP level that still lives on despite the deficits of Harper and Trudeau. These good policy ideas from across the political spectrum help enrich Canada, and they came about from having good people representing them earnestly. But to do this, we need the best people to represent the various viewpoints and perspectives that we share.

However Canada's conservatives have had -- and continue to have -- extremely poor-quality representation amongst their political parties. Let's contrast what the Conservatives bring to the table vs our new Prime Minister.

Mark Carney brings a level head, a combination of highly regarded public service and private sector experience, and a steady hand and plan to move our economy forward in these hard times that demand it. He understands economics and how markets function, and how a lack of competition and perverse incentives have led to a GDP with low levels of productivity. He wants to reallocate public sector resources to deliver more value to Canadians. He is not participating in the bullshit "culture war".

And now to the actual Conservatives we get. The leader of the CPC, Pierre "lil" Poilievre, is a hateful weasel of a man. Some compare him to Donald Trump but he's not even that -- he's what the kids these days call a "simp", a loser and wet paper bag who tries to act tough. PP embraces the culture war on the side of the anti-woke, going out of his way to try to hurt and bully vulnerable people so that he and his followers can feel strong by punching down. He wants to gut and slash services that are essential and beloved by Canadians, following in the footsteps of his American idols who are actively doing this today. PP is full of populist slogans that are full of hot air, and pettily torpedos market-based solutions like the Carbon Tax when it's politically expedient.

But it's not enough to say that PP is a bad guy. Fucking duh, he is. But he's also an incredibly poor-quality representative to the Canadians who have the entirely legitimate viewpoint that Canada needs to focus more on economic strength, to encourage entrepreneurial success, and so forth. The Canadians who have that political viewpoint deserve to have a leader who doesn't take marching orders from Republican talking point memos. Lowercase-C conservatives deserve better.

Frankly it should be an embarrassment to Canada's conservatives that they haven't nominated Carney or someone like him. Because it was always possible for them to do that. Drop the hate and bullying, replace the empty slogans with experience and real plans, drop the MAGA and American propaganda in the trash where it belongs. Lowercase-C conservatives deserve this -- not just for my sake but for their own sake.

As someone who has long held policy preferences that tend towards preferring market-oriented solutions, yet using sensible regulation to guide that invisible hand towards beneficial outcomes for the public, someone who is not full of spite towards vulnerable minorities -- I will enthusiastically support Mark Carney in the upcoming election. And if Carney wins and fails to live up to his promises, then I double-dog-dare the Conservatives to replace PP with someone they -- and we -- actually deserve.

 

We, the undersigned, population of Canada, call upon the Government of Canada to reconsider existing and future military contracts with the United States of America, especially the acquisition of new F-35s.

Petition by Charlie Angus

 

CBC and other outlets are discussing how the trade war is impacting aluminum cans. This highlights the perverse way we’ve structured our economy and how the trade war — while disruptive and causing short-term harm — will help drive longer term structural improvements.

On first glance it could be seen as unexpected that American levies on Canadian-made aluminium could impact our own beer cans. Pretty weird, right?

But no. We export the raw Canadian aluminum to the US, and then re-import it here. This makes sense for the companies involved— they can take advantage of the abysmal worker and environmental protections in the US and lower tax rates to maximize profit. And Canadians buy the beer anyhow; most (including me) not even knowing that it’s happening.

This system allows Americans and American companies to reap much of the value, despite not actually being strictly necessary. Their “value-add” is entirely from being awful, yet it works because of the structure of international trade.

So this system is really good for the US business interests, but is really bad for Canada. In order to boost our economy we lower the price of our dollar — making us poorer, our imports more expensive— in order to subsidize the exports of raw materials. And many of these raw materials are not renewable — once they are gone they are gone forever.

With the trade war we have a new opportunity. We can process our raw materials here. Yes, it may be a bit more expensive because we have labour laws and make our companies pay taxes and try not to ruin the environment quite as much.

But that’s okay — because the price is going up regardless. Deciding to make this structural change was a difficult pill to swallow because there will be people negatively impacted and this can be bad politics. But an idiot with no understanding of economics made this choice for us— a painful experience but also a blessing in disguise.

So yeah let’s process our own aluminum, our own oil, our own lumber. Process it here; capture the value here for Canadian businesses paying Canadian taxes and hiring skilled Canadian workers.

This will be a difficult period of adjustment, there will be hard times ahead. But someday soon those beer cans will be made in Canada. And on that day, we win.

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