Imagine the whiplash I got, when I went online and saw people hating on three storied building with their own gardens, and calling them commie blocks, acting like it was the greatest indignity to live in them. Yikes!

Yeah, same. I went back to my facebook groups and instagram pages for a while when reddit went crappy, and it really highlighted how helpful downvotes were

Downvotes are helpful if they are used properly (off-topic, hate speech, rediquitte, etc.), but I see people using it as a dislike button lately and that has made many discussion annoying and exhausting. Also, downvotes latently breed a hivemind which is like one of the worst parts of reddit.

Some may disagree, but the root is very much shame, imo.

A lot of the parents of gay peeps I know were pretty chill about queerness, until their kid turned out to be one and they were shamed by their community. One of them started crying immediately when their kid came out and screamed about what society would say, but then adjusted and decided to prioritise their kid after a few hours.

I usually find Homophobia to be instilled through religion or hate media - In that sense There isn't really any systemic homophobia through non-abrahamic religions, which make up most of the country. That said, there has been a recent trend of few online personalities (few religious ones among them) copying western right wingers and denouncing trans people - which I find worrisome.

Most of the homophobia I have encountered I'm people here has usually been instilled through movies or online communities or through interactions where gay is used as an insult.

A homosexual kid who moves away will probably still be targeted, sadly. It's the "rebellion" that's the issue - there are many cases of honor-obsessed weirdos that have targeted their family peeps who went against the norm in different ways.

Am Indian, I'll try and explain this crap mindset in the Indian context.

Why is queer people existing “dishonorable”???

Queer people are considered disgusting + a Strong Community sense to the point of toxicity.

Firstly, there's a lack of understanding:

Queerness is viewed as a choice, not an identity. A heteronormative environment + lack of education causes people to think that queer people are being quirky or rebelling, refusing to "listen to reason".

Secondly, Abrahamic religious and Colonial Influence:

Ancient India was kinda chill with queer people. Transexual people were ok, being able to live freely and own property, with some places even revered the trans people in their religion. Gay peeps, however, were thought to be unnatural for opposing the traditional family structure, but were punished lightly with small fines for indulging in homosexuality.

The whole stigma around Queerness started when Portugese settlors aggressivley punishing sodomy as early as the early 1500s in Goa. A few decades later, Mughals conquered their way into India and punished homosexuality with lashes/whippings/stonings. British Raj then took over almost all of India, and codified Homosexuality as a crime all over the country, and then labelled trans people as a "criminal tribe" and persecuted them.

A common point of discussion in Indian circles is the still-prevelant post-colonial starvation mindset in so many people of India - pursuing European/American beauty standards, disregard of own local culture, blind belief in western cultural concepts, racial imposter syndrome, validation from white people, sexual repression etc. This irrational distaste for queer people is a part of this mindset that has been left-behind and ingrained in the many cultures of India.

Overall, Queerness is considered dishonorable as it is seen as a form of "extreme rebellion" in the "most repulsive of ways".

Why do those commiting the violence do it?

India has always been a communal country. Even at it's peak, it was an alliance/cease-fire of hundreds of princely states and kingdoms ruled by communities. There was also the caste system that became more and more rigid and oppressive as time went on.

Anyhoo, you and your family was entirely dependant on staying by your community (community could refer to your caste, your tribe, your village, or your large family). It was a difficult task to move to a new community. Any sin or crime that you did also brought shame upon your community, and it was upto your community to correct the issue themselves and restore their honor - resulting in a heirarchical, community-priorities-first system.

While archaic, this mindset is prevelant in modern India - especially since your community is your primary support system, and there is a vast difference in socio-economic status between tight-knit and loosely-knit communities.

Those resorting to violence think that Queer people have commited a disgusting crime in a rebellious manner, all the while discarding everything that was done for them, ultimately bringing extreme shame to the family and the community. Therefore, they avenge and restore their honor by punishing the criminals for indulging in sin.

It's a toxic af dogshit mentality, especially propogated by those in power within the communities, using hate to keep their authority in line. But it is coming down slowly but steadily thankfully due to alleviation of poverty, diversification, healing from post-colonial mindset, and lesser dependance on your community for survival.

I'm on the other side of your opinion - I like that phrase. "Content" can mean art, audio/visual media, writings, etc. - basically anything that we consume.

IMO, Professional creative like artists/writers/performers are all content creators but not not all content creators are professional creatives.

In this day and age, everyone creates music, comedy, videos, skits. Some work a job primarily but create media or rabbitholes that can be scoured through.

I think "content creator" is a nice catch-all term for personalities that do a lot of stuff that can be casually consumed for entertainment or discourse, especially because it stops limiting said people to one occupation like "musician" or "author", while also preserving the seriousness of those occupations.

I find this arguing over labels more and more as I browse online, and it is sooo exhausting. I have noticed so many instances of arguing and discourse where both sides have similar ideals and want the same things, but argue with each other over stereotypes of labels on the other side, and point to the faults of the vocal rabid minority on the other side as if to prove a point. Sigh.

Wow, the song was an experience. Chills.

Thank you!

That was a great song, damn. Thanks a lot. It's so simple yet deep. It's gonna stick around in my head for a while

Ooooh yes it does. I enjoyed the song a lot, thank you! I think I'm going to binge Pamplemousse entirely, their work seems like it'd jive with me

I loved your suggestions, thanks a lot

Little Talks was cute, it reminds me of Anyone Else But You by The Moldy Peaches but with more energy

George Thorogood's song is not the kind of music I usually listen to, but damn is he engaging and jivey

I think Alice's Restaurant is my fav from your suggestions, but lol it's almost an audiobook with it's length

Love songs seem to be the most common in this style - I also have a large number of such songs in my library. I prolly should've asked for non-love songs specifically tbh, but the current suggestions are pretty great so can't complain.

I like Kahlil Gibran

Recently been listening to Daniella Sinder and enjoying her works as well

there's a zip file of rarbg sql database file floating around, it has the magnet links of every torrent on the website, anyone interested may look it up and download stuff before they die