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submitted 1 year ago by Two9A@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Let's get the AMAs kicked off on Lemmy, shall we.

Almost ten years ago now, I wrote RFC 7168, "Hypertext Coffeepot Control Protocol for Tea Efflux Appliances" which extends HTCPCP to handle tea brewing. Both Coffeepot Control Protocol and the tea-brewing extension are joke Internet Standards, and were released on Apr 1st (1998 and 2014). You may be familiar with HTTP error 418, "I'm a teapot"; this comes from the 1998 standard.

I'm giving a talk on the history of HTTP and HTCPCP at the WeAreDevelopers World Congress in Berlin later this month, and I need an FAQ section; AMA about the Internet and HTTP. Let's try this out!

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[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 18 points 1 year ago

A new RFC for IPv7. It's just IPv4 with an extra octet. Yes or no?

[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I don't think the extra address space of IPv6 is the problem holding back its adoption, so "IPv4 with another octet" would likely run into the same issues.

Not that it's a bad idea, it's just an idea that's unlikely to catch on.

[-] bric@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

What would you say is holding IPv6 back?

[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The biggest problem IPv6 has is that IPv4 has been so hugely successful: gargantuan resources have been poured into getting the world connected on IPv4, and the routers/etc deployed in the field (especially in sub-Saharan Africa, south Asia, and other places which got the Internet late) are built around version 4: data paths 32 bits wide, ASICs and firmware developed with 4-byte offsets, and so on.

It's a big effort, and more importantly an expensive effort, to move all that infrastructure over for what the end user perceives as no benefit: their websites load just the same as before.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Are you saying there’s no financial incentive at the individual level to upgrade?

[-] Two9A@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Essentially. If the end user is being asked to make a financial outlay to get to the same things they did before, it's unlikely that will go down well.

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