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Just tryna be human out here sucks
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Update: I got banned from hexbear and grad lmao
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I've never been able to figure out the basic ideas behind their opinions. It's something like US conservatives, where it's something stupider than you can even guess at, but less predictable.
Understand that some or most of the key posters there are literally pawns of Russian or Chinese intelligence. Troll farms, wumao, what have you. Whether they are literally government employees or contracted through a third party, their purpose is to astroturf positive optics of their employer and negative optics of the US/the West as a whole. A more sinister interpretation, they are trying to destabilize the West by doing things like trashing Biden, now Harris, hoping to secure a chaotic and inwardly destructive Trump presidency.
Anything they say is to service these goals, anything they believe is mutable to these goals, and nothing they argue is in good faith.
But doesnt china block hexbear?
For others but their info opsec is uninhibited. The crux of authoritarians is "rules for the but not for me".
Sure, they don’t want themselves to be destabilized by this nonsense.
I don't buy that at all. Lemmy is far too small for foreign agents to be posting propaganda. Why would they try to convince people who don't need convincing?
Tankies already suckle foreign propaganda, ain't no need to directly influence them.
It does not take much effort to throw some 3rd party troll farm a few dimes a post.
but why tho. no one on lemmy needs convincing
I've seen some downright insane takes on how what the Chinese are doing to the Uighurs is not as bad as it seems.
It sure is odd how hexbear loves the absolute fuck out of Russia and China.
it's very simple.
us bad.
yeah by the lemmy devs
Yu're pretty much outlining the problem. Yes, the people on hexbear and 'omg I'm so leftist' on the rest of lemmy strongly support Russia and China, who are not "America’s designated enemy countries" simply because Americans unilaterally claimed it or something, but are geopolitical and military rivals who straight up say they oppose the US. There's nothing politically special about either country that makes them worthy of leftist support other than hatred of America, yes. It's a pretty pathetic concept to base your political views on since it's not even remotely consistent. These bold intellectual luminaries should move to Russia if they think it's so great (that is, assuming they don't already live there). Most likely they live cushy lives in Western Europe while whining about how great the CCCP is.
China is not communist at all for the past 20 years. They do slightly socialist capitalism with a one party system. That’s what makes HB’s love of the CCCP so clueless. Admire China if you want, sure, but they’re not communists. Same people act as if modern Russia is communist because the USSR theoretically was.
The Chinese and Russians would be perfect rly happy to do the same thing the US has been doing. China is working on it, in fact. Russians seem too mired in their own difficulties but anyone who thinks they don’t want an empire apparently doesn’t know much about the USSR.
Russia, Iran and China all operate global empires, it's not just the US. China is also not communist.
If they were actually communist they wouldn't produce billionaires by the hundreds.
Didn't you already post this dumb shit in a different place? This stupid essay wastes a ton of time citing philosophers instead of data and then ends with "it is okay to have billionaires because of reasons, still socialism." It isn't socialism.