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A) No, I'm talking about deporting them and not imprisoning them. Bussing them back to their country of origin. No camp involved.
B) Yes, I'm quite aware that having a second class of workers that you can pay less and abuse is important to our economy, but it really shouldn't be. And unless they are stealing SSNs, they are not paying income tax.
C) By definition, illegal immigrants have committed at least one crime.
We should secure the border and deport every single one of them. That's how a functional country operates. You can't have a country if you don't defend your borders.
A) like I said it's a prerequisite to move around millions of people. You need to first collect all of them, put them in camps. And then you would need something like 10% of all airline capacity working round the clock 24/7 for a year in order to move everyone out.
We would need camps. Deporting everyone would mean camps. Like I said- be very clear of what you're suggesting.
B) us gov gives ITIN for people to pay taxes and illegals do. Hard to find a job when most places require i9 and participate in e-verify.
It's easy to start a company, get an ITIN, and work as a subcontractor though. Believe me, vast swathes of our construction industry work in this manner.
C) it is not a criminal act, like getting a speeding ticket is not a criminal act. These people commit dramatically less crime than native-born Americans.
That actually isn't how the US functioned for most of its history. The "illegals" today would have been regular immigrants for the majority of this country's history.
A functional country operates on what is best for the country. Normalizing their status and improving the immigration system is what would actually be done if our country was "functional"