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Second Wind and Frosts leaving
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You bring up some great points, I feel bad for not giving you a solid reply but I've had my second bottle of wine with my wife and am drunk.
I didn't bring the video here to champion frost, just to let everyone see because I have seen several posts about it prior to frosts video.
I'm sure all up everyone is to blame, almost always is the case but the world will decide who is more at fault.
Either way though, Nick doesn't make contentI'm interested in. I would rather see everyone be entirely independent and succeed or fail on their own merits