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fuck wages as a concept entirely. I want to do things because they need to be done, because they help the people around me, and because I enjoy them

I don't want people to tell me I'm better than someone else just because I decided to focus on my special interest or fix something that was annoying me or some shit

I don't want to exist anywhere near any system or ideology where they try and measure and pay "hard work", I want to freely do shit I want to do without people trying to measure and dissect it and apply it to their own idea of "value".

I hate it when people refuse to accept help because they feel like they don’t “deserve” it. That just wastes everyone's time, so stop calling people leeches. The point of mutual aid is building structures that help everyone involved, and if you did that right people “using it” and not “giving back” don’t exist, because using it is “giving back”. Every bit of dependence any of us rip away from the capitalists undermines their power for all of us.

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[-] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

fuck wages as a concept entirely I want to do things because they need to be done, because they help the people around me

Help yourself first - there's nothing wrong with it.

[-] RosethornRangerTTV@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

you can't help yourself without helping others, mutual aid is how the poor survive

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

There's a reason airlines tell you to secure your own oxygen mask before helping others with theirs '. Being stable yourself puts you in a better position to be helpful.

[-] RosethornRangerTTV@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

and before that you make sure the other person is on the same page by making sure they help themselves first in case you get knocked out yourself, so you could say it starts with helping them

or maybe we could just describe it as building social structures that help everyone involved, you know mutual aid like ive been saying. You can do more together. I'm disabled, there is no amount of focusing on myself that will make me stable in this society.

I am done with this conversation. If anyone wants to focus on working with people to survive, I got links in my bio. If you think you can survive alone go somewhere else.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

The example given actually relates to children.

Parents should put their own oxygen mask on before that of their children because you can help them if they pass out but if you pass out your child may pannick and not be able to save you.

Being a parent and often in charge i am very aware of the help yourself first to help others mentally because we survive on it.

However none if that is really against your main argument of mutual aid which i very much agree with.

The economy has formed our schools into molding people for work. I believe everything could be different within a single generation if we shift primarily education to prioritize respect for others and the environment, self-guided exploration and growth. Learning what different people need to flourish working together to build community.

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

I think you misunderstand me. I'm all for mutual aid. It's just easier to provide aid to others when you're less in need of it yourself.

[-] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io -1 points 3 months ago

you can't help yourself without helping others

This is how modern economy works - you get your wage by providing something to someone else. But my point is, there's no shame in doing this to support yourself as priority, rather than supporting other people - in other words you have right to do it for egoistic reasons

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