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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago

Um... what exactly is being stolen?

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Their sense of pride and accomplishment?

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago

The fruits of artistic labour.

Ask any artist if they'd rather their work not be enjoyed at all, or enjoyed for free.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 12 points 3 months ago

Typically it's the fruits of distributing someone else's artistic labor that are ~~stolen~~ not paid. The artists are under contract with the producers/distributors, so they get paid regardless (if we're talking RIAA/MPAA/record labels/movie studios).

Making a copy of something isn't the same as stealing it. Making a copy of something and trying to pass it off as your own work is fraud, but that's outside the scope of digital piracy. "Theft" requires that the stolen item is no longer in the possession of the original owner.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 months ago

Ask any artist if they'd rather their work not be enjoyed at all, or enjoyed for free.

Here you go:

Neal Gaiman on copyright piracy and the web.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's exactly it. That was my point: It's better to be enjoyed for free than not at all.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

The only industry whose profits need to be guaranteed by laws.

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

No. Almost all industries nowadays rely on IP. Nobody is manufacturing in Europe or US anymore. The most lucrative business of scale rely on software, logistics and other IP.

Most people who do piracy don't understand how their job also depends on IP in one way or the other. Their idealostic world view is incoherent. If you do privacy at least own up to it. You're copying someone else's work and there is no moral argument to do that in a non-socialist world.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There was a time when the same could be said about slavery. People's lives depended on slavery and they couldn't imagine an economy without it and yet here we are.

No one should own a person and no one should own an idea.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 3 months ago

You're copying someone else's work

That's how culture works and has worked since humans have been human, you damn lunatic.

Copying and retelling and sharing each other's stories and works is what makes us human and differentiates us from other animals, you monstrously ignorant tool.

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're completely oblivious to modern day society. It's not difficult to understand that this idealized reality doesn't exist. It's basic economics.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ask any artist if they'd rather their work not be enjoyed at all, or enjoyed for free.

Here you go:

Neal Gaiman on copyright piracy and the web.

this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2024
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