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JK Rowling falls silent as she could be prosecuted in Imane Khelif lawsuit
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I didn't say they were misgendering her, I said they refused to use her preferred pronouns. Surely you can agree with the factual accuracy of that statement.
yea, nah.
Edit: Using a word is not the same as refusing to use another word in its place.
Also, how do you even know her preferred pronouns in English? Did you ask her?
Imane is a Muslim from a country where being trans is illegal. I think she's said enough words to the effect of preferring she/her despite the language barrier. If you expect her to be familiar enough with English to describe her preferences with regard to the specific grammatical rules of it, I find your demand xenophobic and racist. Her preferences can easily be inferred from the translations of what she says in her own language, in the context of her own country's and religion's social norms.
again, gender-neutral wording like they/them don't say anything about gender or her own identity. 'They' does not refer to a third gender. I'm not demanding anything from her. You're the one who brought up using the correct pronouns. So I expect you to be familiar with English grammar.
I think your language-policing is ridiculous. You can't expect someone unfamiliar with a situation to be up-to-date with how to affirm someone's gender correctly. Gender-neutral language functions as a safe fall-back in such situations. You can rightfully expect people to not misgender people. You cannot be rightfully offended at people using gender-neutral language. The only person I'm making demands of currently is you, because you're making this discussion unnecessarily hostile.
I'm not accusing them of misgendering her. I'm just saying they didn't use her preferred pronouns. I thought I already explained that fact. You keep on going back to this issue and trying to accuse me of misgendering. What's with all the false accusations? I already explained that I don't have as big a problem as you seem to think I have. Is it that you just want there to be a big blowout fight so you're trying to invent an argument on my side for you to rail against?
No, I just mean to say that they didn't use her preferred pronouns. Surely you can acknowledge this is the correct factual interpretation of what happened. A simple yes or no will suffice, I don't want this massive argument. I'm not interested in a big fight.
I'm just saying you're making a big deal out of nothing. Have a good night now.