One of my favorite things to witness (usually via video) is someone being persistent, to the point of annoyance, bring told "no" every time, with varying degrees of profanity mixed in.... Then when something happens that makes the annoying person who is persistent finally stop (usually involving physical violence), they say "all you had to do was say no!"
Aaaahahahaha. You were an annoying little shit and wouldn't take no for an answer despite being told no repeatedly. You deserved what you got, you dumb fuck.
Yeah everyone has their own limit before it becomes a problem. There are some women out there who are taking to Tiktok asking "why don't men approach me at work anymore?" She's outright open to it. There are women out there who will overlook an unwanted advance or two if it isn't a recurring problem. And there are some women out there whose limit is "any attention at all whatsoever. Catcalling should be a felony #metoo." There are men who report being disciplined or fired for so much as saying "I like that outfit." How many mines do you have to plant in a field before you start calling it a minefield?
In any case it certainly makes "being persistent" sound like a very bad strategy, doesn't it? I think we can label that strategy well and truly dead.
There are men who report being disciplined or fired for so much as saying “I like that outfit.”
I work in this area, and in my experience, there is way more going on than just a compliment about an outfit whenever someone is getting disciplined. Employees who claim that usually have no ability to self-reflect about the extent or appropriateness of their behaviour.
That's simply not true. Not unless you're asking it persistently, to the point where people find it annoying.
And I think that's the hitch people get caught on. They don't realize when they're being annoying, so they're either too brash or too shy.
One of my favorite things to witness (usually via video) is someone being persistent, to the point of annoyance, bring told "no" every time, with varying degrees of profanity mixed in.... Then when something happens that makes the annoying person who is persistent finally stop (usually involving physical violence), they say "all you had to do was say no!"
Aaaahahahaha. You were an annoying little shit and wouldn't take no for an answer despite being told no repeatedly. You deserved what you got, you dumb fuck.
Yeah everyone has their own limit before it becomes a problem. There are some women out there who are taking to Tiktok asking "why don't men approach me at work anymore?" She's outright open to it. There are women out there who will overlook an unwanted advance or two if it isn't a recurring problem. And there are some women out there whose limit is "any attention at all whatsoever. Catcalling should be a felony #metoo." There are men who report being disciplined or fired for so much as saying "I like that outfit." How many mines do you have to plant in a field before you start calling it a minefield?
In any case it certainly makes "being persistent" sound like a very bad strategy, doesn't it? I think we can label that strategy well and truly dead.
I work in this area, and in my experience, there is way more going on than just a compliment about an outfit whenever someone is getting disciplined. Employees who claim that usually have no ability to self-reflect about the extent or appropriateness of their behaviour.
bull. shit.