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A tearful, unscripted moment between Tim Walz and his 17-year-old son, Gus, has unleashed a flood of praise and admiration – but also prompted ugly online bullying.

Gus Walz, who has a nonverbal learning disorder as well as anxiety and ADHD, watched excitedly from the front row of Chicago’s United Center and sobbed openly Wednesday night as his father, the Democratic nominee for vice president, delivered his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention.

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Conservative columnist and right-wing provocateur Ann Coulter mocked the teenager’s tears. “Talk about weird,” she wrote on X. The message has since been deleted.

Mike Crispi, a Trump supporter and podcaster from New Jersey, mocked Walz’s “stupid crying son” on X and added, “You raised your kid to be a puffy beta male. Congrats.”

Alec Lace, a Trump supporter who hosts a podcast about fatherhood, took his own swipe at the teenager: “Get that kid a tampon already,” he wrote, an apparent reference to a Minnesota state law that Walz signed as governor in that required schools to provide free menstrual supplies to students.

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[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 84 points 2 months ago

It shouldn't matter whether he is LD. No one should be bullied.

Research shows that bullying behavior often stems from a combination of factors such as a desire for social dominance, a lack of empathy, or modeling of aggressive behaviors at home, said Kristen Eccleston, a former special education teacher and advocate for children with social-emotional needs.

[-] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 21 points 2 months ago

Too bad some people just don't know about or choose to not follow the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

That’s because they’re “Christians” and nowhere in the Bible does it say to be kind to others, or to have empathy, or to respect each other… /s

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Love thy neighbor

Edit: I stopped reading before the /s. My bad. This one's on me

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I almost didn’t add that /s at the end figuring “surely nobody would think I’m serious”. Apparently my comment wasn’t dripping with enough sarcasm!

[-] Promethiel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Case of not seeing the wit for the trees. In the topsy-turvy landscape of the last 8 years or so, the problem is that "dripping with" part. The weirdos do always go for the double-down after all, so adding more starts risking confusion with that tactic of theirs.

[-] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I thought you were talking specifically about the golden rule at first

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I think many people in fact actively get a high from feeling powerful, and therefore doing the exact opposite of what they want done to them, and then are usually the people to whine the loudest when anything of the sort happens to them.

For example Trump’s speeches are like 85% insulting people, whining about those critical about him, etc. Huge middle school bully energy.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

Yes and there was recently a speech he gave whining about how he was treated.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Recently? I can't recall a speech he's given since he started running for president where he didn't whine about perceived mistreatment

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

Lol. You're right

[-] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

When you're a narcissist, "others" is nonsensical, because the only person worthy of agency and empathy is you. That's why the golden rule doesn't work - it's like if they were colorblind, they lack the capacity to even understand it.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago

It absolutely matters. It's like the difference between hitting someone who's weaker than you, and hitting someone in a wheelchair. When you're bullying, you're punching down. When your victim is an even more vulnerable member of society (disabled, poor, elderly, neurodivergent, etc), you're punching way down and are a piece of shit.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you're punching way down and are a piece of shit.

Bullying still makes you a piece of shit even if the victim isn't disabled, though.

The article mentioned a conservative talk-show host who called Gus a "blubbering bitch boy" and then retracted the statement when he found out the kid has a disability. No, either way, that is not okay!

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, we're on the same page: bullying is bad no matter what. But surely you agree it's worse to bully someone with a disability...?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Bullying makes you a piece of shit even if the victim isn't disabled.

I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise. But like everything in reality, it's not black and white. If you can't see how it's worse when the person has disabilities, then I don't know what to tell you.

I suspect you understand it just fine though.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

I do understand, and I think if the only reason a person isn't bullying someone is because that person is differently abled, that doesn't make the person who refrained only because the potential victim is differently abled a genuinely decent person, just that they know they are less likely to get away without consequences, if anyone else finds out.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Who are you arguing with? Nobody here (that I've seen) has said or even suggested that.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 months ago

Lol. Replied to wrong comment. I'm human, it happens.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You emphasized lack of empathy, but I think we also need to focus on "a desire for social dominance" because it describes exactly what these fascists have planned for America.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

Agreed. It's interesting to me that normal, healthy people just go about their business, and those not so healthy want to impose their sickness on the rest of us. It's contagious, for the weaker among us, too, apparently.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
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