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It's not assumptions, there's photos online...
Also, that's something that only someone who's never been in a Samoan community would ever say.
The only photos I've seen online are head shots and it's pretty hard to tell someone's physical appearance from those.
And again with the assumptions.
No, it's not an assumption. Because if you had, you would know that what I said was completely accurate.
Then I assume you have a crystal ball somewhere. Otherwise you would ask instead of tell me where I have or have not been, and ask instead of tell me who I know or do not know.
No, I don't. There aren't a lot of high density Samoan enclaves around the US relative to other minority groups, and I grew up alongside one of the largest.
I realize it controversial for Lemmy's white liberal sensibilities to point out different groups of people can have different characteristics, but that doesn't make it any less true, no matter how many people down vote what I'm saying.
I also never said any of this justified the police killing her.
You suggested it was understandable for them to shoot her because she was 300% as big as any other race because she's Samoan. I'm flabbergasted at how tone deaf you are.
No, I definitely did not.
I said it wasn't an accurate comparison.
Yes, you did. It seems you didn't mean to, but you did. There's a reason you're catching so much hate right now, and instead of shutting up and introspecting, you're doubling down on your weird obsession that Samoans are 300% bigger than any other person.
You're missing the vital forest you started on by getting stuck defining trees it looks like, but I get it.
Minorities are treated by a separate physical rubric by law enforcement and even the court of public opinion. The biases abound, yes. And those absolutely involve secondary physical characteristics, of which biologically speaking are...things that exist. Like skin color is one.
I get what you're saying and while I don't know why other folks are uncomfortable with that, but if I clocked things right, your original point (paraphrased below) is damn right imo:
Whether a 16 year old child is American Samoan, Black, Hispanic, or White, they are still a child, however large or mature the specific kid's genetics may have rolled them to appear. Further, it is fucked up for cops to default to feeling more threatened by the bigger/more developed ones, to have more bombastic reactions, as does tend to happen.
This is reality for minorities; my large colored ass doesn't get away with certain behaviors even as the affronted party, unfairly as it is.
No, I understand that. She was also a non-native English speaker, who was still learning English.
The first part of my original comment was specifically addressing someone else's comment who was incorrectly comparing apples to cantaloupes.
I said nothing to do about what the cops felt, or even their actions, which I addressed in the second half, but no one has responded to that so it was dropped.
I was simply stating that those are not apt comparisons because of the statistically significant physical differences between those two groups of people.
There's a reason why Pacific islanders, specifically Samoans, are 40 times more likely to be in the NFL than any other group.
None of that justifies the police killing her, but it also invalidates the original comparison, which was all I was critiquing.