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Its still crazy to me so many people wanted to keep Biden. He wasn't only hurting our chance at the presidency, a poor presidential candidate hurts chances for gains in House/Senate too.
Biden had too many valid issues that was hurting Dem turnout.
Lots of people couldn't hold their nose for Biden, and likely weren't going to show up to just vote down ballot.
Kamala is far from perfect, but has practically zero baggage in comparison to Biden. So running her is going to help pick up more seats elsewhere.
If she does the "now that I'm in office I'm going to start trying to find out if I can do anything" that Biden did tho. We'll get nothing accomplished with those 2 years and lose one or both in midterms.
There's no excuse to be unprepared in January, it shows voters that the candidate wasn't really serious about fixing shit, and it's almost impossible for a candidate to recover.
Considering a primary in 2028 is incredibly unlikely, we can't afford Kamala to fuck this up.
She needs to start doing shit to help Americans day 1.
Traditionally, the incumbent has a huge advantage. I don't believe that the party of any sitting president that was primaried ever won the election. There are only a few cases of a sitting president that was eligible for another term stepping aside, and those were a very long time ago.
There was very little precedent for what Biden did, and I think very few could have predicted the enthusiasm for Harris - I remember her last campaign. It wasn't inspiring.
I think Biden felt like the safest choice to many, though obviously that's been proven incorrect. Hopefully the Democratic party will take a lesson from this and be more willing to replace an incumbent in the future if there's a better option.
Yeahhhhhhhhhh they won't. They never do
And let's be real here. The enthusiasm isn't so much for Harris. It's for anyone not 80 years old or Trump.
Sure they do. The lesson they invariably take is "we need to move to the right."
Probably because the party was already in a really weak position in the first place, which led to both the nominee getting primaried and the party still losing the general anyway. Like, if someone has a massive coronary and ends up dying during emergency heart surgery you're probably not going to blame the surgery for killing them.
And I've never heard of a single person dying during open heart surgery who didn't have a condition that required open heart surgery...
Looking at just that and refusing open heart surgery wouldn't make much logical sense if you had a condition surgery could help...
Right?
Because lots of people have died because they didn't have surgery they needed. Similarly incumbents have lost elections because they were too weak of a candidate and shouldn't have been on the ticket in the first place...
You should be awarded for coming up with an argument this bad
Every argument they start derails into being bad faith like this. They're absurdly good at the initial post being somewhat plausible. Then whatever position they took falling apart upon further discussion.