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[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 60 points 2 months ago

I understand where he is coming from. If the car is street legal, he shouldn't have gotten a fine for using it. The problem is that cars that produce such levels of noise are street legal.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 months ago

Lambos aren't quiet, but if you drive them gently then they aren't loud enough to set off the noise camera.

So this is a bit like arguing someone should be allowed to blast their music at midnight just because the speakers were legal to buy and own. If a city implements noise restrictions to protect the health and well-being of their residents then people have a legal and moral obligation to do their best to comply even if that means driving your lambo slowly through residential areas.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

They maybe don't set them.off, but where i live, quite a lot of people drive Lamborghinis, and they are obnoxious loud, even if they just idle on a redlight. And just hitting the accelerator slightly more than usual and they are way louder than any peasant car is ever allowed to be.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Every single car you and I have ever owned, are presumably street legal, yet they can reach speeds that are illegal almost everywhere.

Similarly, every knife I have ever owned has the necessary sharpness to cut meat... yet I am not supposed to cut human meat. I am pretty certain the car would not reach undesirable noise levels if he were not speeding or revving the engine, etc. So it is more on him for HOW he is using the car and not how the car was built

So his reasoning sounds legit, but it really is not.

[-] USSMojave@startrek.website 16 points 2 months ago

Just because it's stock doesn't mean the driver can't rev the engine way too hard and loud like a crazy person, engine braking loud at shit down the street in the middle of the night, yeah could be annoying

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Some others have mentioned there may be a distinction between levels of noise when the car is in some sort of "street" mode. I have zero sympathy if there is a street legal mode that he turned off while on public roads.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

The car can do 200 miles per hour, and yet there are speed limits. Should he be exempt?

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Duh, it can go 200 mph stock.

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Whats the noise level if the car is driving at a reasonable speed in the city?

I imagine it's only excessively noisy if they are showing off, revving the engine, and/or streeet racing

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That car cruising at 30 mph in the city is probably louder than a Honda Civic when you put the loud pedal all the way down on the freeway.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

It depends on the revs, not the speed.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah no shit. The thing is, those supercars are insanely loud from factory. I was behind a pair of Diablo SVs in a traffic jam on the motorway once, and even then they pretty much drowned out the sound of the little 500 cc motorcycle engine between my legs. I have no idea how those things are deemed street legal.

Edit: It's not about the revs alone, but also engine load. 3000 rpm stationary might be relatively quiet, but 3000 rpm with the throttle blades wide open is an entirely different matter.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Street legal doesn't mean incapable of violating noise regulations if misused just like speed laws or any other traffic laws. Most gas engine cars can produce extreme amounts of noise just not when used as intended for driving on streets.

[-] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is true, but why not fine all individuals in that case (assuming the driver was not accruing in bad faith).

Government regulation has to apply equally to the rich and the poor and if there was no signage indicating his street legal car could not be used on that street, it's hard to see how he should be liable.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for a guy with that kind of money, but it doesn't mean he's filthy rich either, for all we know he's got cancer and sold his house for the dream car, who knows.

The point is, government regulation should be consistent and act in the best interest of the people. This is a failure in public policy.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago

This is still a goofy line of reasoning. If you, for example, are driving a truck equipped with engine retarder brakes, in quite a lot of municipalities you literally aren't allowed to use them because they are too loud for neighbourhoods. You risk getting a fine.

Revving a lambo is exactly the same.

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