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Unlike Trump who totally didn't tell Isreal to "finish up" and to get it over with "fast" because they were "losing the PR war" and then, when Biden didn't supply weapons to Israel, claimed Biden "abandoned" them.
Oh, and who, just a month ago pledged to help save Israel while also saying that Harris hates them? Who also failed to cut military aid to Israel during his presidency? Oh, right, also Trump.
Neither of our primary parties are going to back down on Israeli support any time soon. While I don't approve of what's happening. It's foolish to think that this is a dividing factor in this election. It's not.
False dichotomy.
Since there's only 2 viable candidates, then one of them is going to win. Both of them support the genocide.
You are not conceding on genocide if you are going to pick the one you disagree with less, ethically and morally speaking, outside of that.
If you don't vote, or if you vote for a non-viable candidate, then you are conceding on all the other ethics and morals that you would otherwise agree with, just by not voting for the less bad but viable one, whoever you believe that is.
You are actively supporting all the negative things about the candidate you agree with least by not voting for one of the two primary candidates.
It sucks, but guess what... when you are stuck on a sinking boat, you can sit in angry defiance and complain all you want about how you don't support the way that your boat manufacturer supported genocide. Or you can pitch in and try to save the fucking people on the boat with you.
One of these behaviors could make someone look like a selfish asshole.
Unless you are introducing a viable candidate who is against the genocide, then there is no concession being made on genocide.
FOH with your false dichotomy.
that's not what active support is.
viability is a media myth. kerry was viable. mccain was viable.
McCain was a Republican and Kerry is a Democrat. Of course they were viable! They have nothing to do with what we're talking about.
Also, it's not a media myth that third parties aren't viable. It's statistically proven fact. Third party candidates only poll around 1-3% of the popular vote by state, cumulatively, and none have received an electoral college vote since '68. The last viable third party candidate was Perot and even he couldn't win a state.
I wish it wasn't the case, because 2 candidates no longer provide enough variability in policy, but it's the truth.
they didn't win. the label of "viable" is a myth.
This argument is a classic example of fearmongering that keeps the status quo alive.
Voting for the "less bad" candidate out of fear just perpetuates the very system that got us into this mess. Choosing between two evils still supports evil.
True change doesn't come from settling for the lesser of two bad options; it comes from standing up for what you truly believe in, even if that means going against the grain.
If the boat is sinking because of the same flawed thinking that built it, patching it up with more of the same won’t save anyone. It’s time to build a new boat, not just keep bailing water on the old one.
Are ya stupid or astroturfing?
They’re a bad faith actor here to say words.
That’s it.
They have no substance, they are not going to engage in good faith.
Yes