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‘There was no mercy, even on children’: trauma in the West Bank after Israeli raids
(www.theguardian.com)
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They absolutely carpet bombed Gaza. And they only let in Aid because the Western world was actually starting to take action against them. Saying we only have body counts for 2 percent of the population is not the defense you think it is either. That's a massive amount of civilian deaths for what's billed as a Western military. And we haven't been able to count bodies left under the rubble yet, so we know there are more.
You don't know what carpet bombing is, obviously. 50,000 is a tiny amount civilian deaths. A million people is a lot of deaths. Five million. Ten. Twenty. Get your head out of the sand. 50,000 is a small town worth of people. It will barely remembered as a footnote in history and it's truly delusional to think otherwise.
50,000 is a little under a third of those killed in Hiroshima, and more than half of those killed in Nagasaki. It's twice the amount killed in the WWII bombing of Dresden.
Hiroshima one day.
Nagasaki one day.
Bombings of Dresden two days.
Gaza one year.
Use better comparisons.
Get better morals, genocide supporter.
Do you have a shirt that says 50KWE?
Wow good argument. ❌
So not a shirt then? A hat?
So 1300~ dead is a drop in the bucket and clearly not worth all this fuss.
Wow 50k to 1.3k? Solid KDR.
Defending democracy is, though. Sucks you don't see it.
'Defending' democracy by denying a people the right to self determination and government, keeping them in the worlds largest concentration camp and killing Palestinians so you can steal their land.
Sucks you don't see it.
Gaza put Hamas in charge. Gaza keeps Hamas in charge.
"Their land" that was stolen from Jews by Ottomans.
In your view, does the free world keep North Korea in a concentration camp as well, or did it isolate itself by being a belligerent neighbor?
Wow these goalposts just keep moving. Every time someone challenges you on one argument you don't acknowledge it and just slide over to a different one.
You're quoting one of three of my direct replies to three arguments that I did not raise. Wtf are you saying I'm moving goalposts? This isn't football. I'm not trying to dunk on anyone. This is complex stuff.
Would you like to guess at the civilian casualty numbers for a few incidents of British terror bombing over German cities in WW2? Terror bombing that was, quite explicitly, meant to blanket civilian areas with ordinance indiscriminately?
I don't think you know what carpet bombing casualty figures look like.
Ah yes, there's not that many of them so killing them doesn't matter. Great take. That's not making you look like a Hugo Boss runway model at all ...
JustZ pretty much exclusively simps for Israel. Either they get a kick out of arguing with strangers, or else they just really, really don't have anything better to do with their time. Don't waste your energy.
But how else would I get to make dark jokes about genocide shilling?
I wonder if your whole family gets wiped out in one of those bombings, if you were on the other side if you will still think that 50 K is a drop in the bucket. You know even one death of a civilian is one too many. Plus Israel destroyed a big chunk of the infrastructure of Gaza. They are acting with utter impunity and have complete disregard of civilian casualties because of people like you.
And they are using 100 - 200 hostages as an excuse to continue doing so. And now tell me how many civilians did IDF killed? You know in wars you have a principle of proportionality:
http://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality#:~:text=The%20principle%20of%20proportionality%20prohibits,and%20direct%20military%20advantage%20anticipated%E2%80%9D.
If I am not wrong the IDF broke this principle many times while claiming that your army is the most moral is a bit hypothetical.