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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by gavi@lemmynsfw.com to c/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com

Any critiques, desire for clarity, outright hatred, whatever have you. I will respond the best I can.

I know there's been some blowback on some of the policy updates but it's been difficult to really explain fully that the restrictive content policy is temporary, this community was very unmanaged for a time and it had to be reigned in somehow and with the limited tools at disposal the temporary policy changes were made.

Here's a comment that also explains a little bit behind the decisions made recently as well.

For community mods, we have a community mod coord matrix group chat now. Feel free to DM about it.

Also, there's another ongoing discussion regarding SFW communities on lemmyNSFW here.

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[-] larsalexanderson@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

Not sure if this belongs here but...

Does every celebrity or porn star really need their own community?

Was browsing by new and almost every celebs post had a duplicate in the ultra specific community just for that one celeb.

[-] Punyu@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

Why is everybody trying to police this instance like it was a single little subreddit? Would Reddit have gotten far if it had been so anal about what communities people can and cannot create?

There's always gonna be communities that other people don't want to see, and with a growing community there's gonna be more and more of them. So instead of policing them all, just subscribe to communities you'd like to see, then look at the "Subscribed" view, that what it's literally there for.

[-] larsalexanderson@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

I'm not policing anything. Was just posing the question. I'm not saying what we should do. This post is asking for feedback. That was my feedback.

[-] hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Noticed that. I don't like it, but that said won't it be up to the users to see what survives and takes root?

I'd rather they didn't exist, but at the same time the freedom of this kind of platform might be compromised if mods just start shutting down communities as they see fit.

I'm split 50/50 on this.

[-] larsalexanderson@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I see your point too, which is why I phrased it as a question. Reddit was big enough that these would just be buried. Also, things are so new and in flux I can't just stick to subscribed right now. ONce the dust settles it will be easier to just ignore.

[-] pronpronpron@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

won’t it be up to the users to see what survives and takes root?

I would agree, but all these celeb communities is making lemmynsfw nigh-unusable for me. Right now, they make up well north of 90% of all communities on this instance, meaning the front page is devoid of any other content unless one uses subscribed-only view or blocks them all.

Being able to one-click block communities from the communities list would help a lot.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm dumb - Hadn't enabled 'Show NSFW' in settings. Still, I don't see why the celebs can't just all go in /c/celebs.

[-] Madness@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 year ago

I just made a post after discovering all the local communities. If you're interested you can check this post.

Still, I don’t see why the celebs can’t just all go in /c/celebs.

Then, the same logic is applied to other duplicate subject communities. Age, pussy, hentai, pornstar, asian, bdsm, tits, dick, cosplay, cum, femdom, freeuse, girls, hair, indian, nsfw, onlyfans, porn, sexy, sissy, tiktok, etc. All this subject has multiple communities not just one.

I'm sure as lemmy's grows also this instance (this instance barely one month, btw) we will have new features to take care of all of this and create users' the best experience. The fact maybe I started early and they growing/active fast, they will appear first when you explore communities.

I hope sorting communities will be available soon. I need that too

[-] pronpronpron@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

the same logic is applied to other duplicate subject communities

Yeah, that's fair. I don't have a problem with specialized communities, and I agree that better filtering tools is the way to go.

Until those tools are available though, perhaps you could slow down a little on opening new communities? Take a look at the front page in logged out mode and you'll see what I mean.

[-] Madness@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

perhaps you could slow down a little on opening new communities? Take a look at the front page in logged-out mode and you’ll see what I mean.

Because a guest only sees SFW stuff. Mostly dominated by us that post Celebrities and do not necessarily mark communities as NSFW. Discovering local communities is now sorted by active users. If a lot of non-celebrities posters actively post/comment and their communities will get higher spots. Btw, it's only a few of us who post celebrities, I can say with all these communities I've only moderated approximately 10-15 posts/day. Maybe less, if me or @SushiMage@lemmynsfw.com doesn't contribute

[-] stersr@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's all @Madness, he mods 170 communities, almost entirely celebrities.

I have absolutely no interest in celeb communities, and they're clogging everything up. Not sure what the solution here is, as I agree with @hedidwot that just becaue I don't like it doesn't mean they should be removed. Perhaps being able to hide communities by tags or by mod?

[-] Madness@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

I just made a post after discovering all the local communities. If you're interested you can check this post.

I'm sure as lemmy's grows also this instance (this instance barely one month, btw) we will have new features to take care of all of this and create users' the best experience. The fact maybe I started early and they growing/active fast, they will appear first when you explore communities.

I hope sorting communities will be available soon. I need that too

[-] stersr@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

For the record, I don't fault you or have any ill will towards you. Apologies if that's how it came across. Just that you created the majority of the celeb communities.

[-] Punyu@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

The point is, they can go wherever people want them to go that make a certain community. That's the wole point. If Reddit had been this hardass about creating certain communities or not, it would've never grown as much as it did.

It just sets a really bad precedent. So celeb communities are first, ok. But next we're debating if exhibitionism and holdthemoan should better be just one sub, and then if gonewild and gonewildeurope should just be one, and why do there have to be more than ONE subs for JAV, or hentai, or... the list is endless. Don't start policing the instance like it was a subreddit.

Instead, just switch to "Subscribed", like we all did as the most normal thing in the world a few days ago.

[-] stersr@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

Part of the challenge is the discoverability. I like to view the community list or all to find new communities to subscribe to. With the huge number of celeb communities it becomes hard to find content I’m interested in.

[-] Madness@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just made a post after discovering all the local communities. If you're interested you can check this post.

I'm sure as lemmy's grows also this instance (this instance barely one month, btw) we will have new features to take care of all of this and create users' the best experience. The fact maybe I started early and they growing/active fast, they will appear first when you explore communities.

I hope sorting communities will be available soon. I need that too

[-] Limeey@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago

I don't speak for the entire admin team, but I don't think we have any interest in policing the community creation provided they have enough moderators to prevent abuse compared to their level of activity (re: huge communities need more mods than small)

We are looking into users who create communities en-masse and are not active.

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