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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 247 points 1 week ago

Gosh, imagine that... the party that wants to turn women into forced breeders isn't popular with the people they want to turn into forced breeders.

The actually surprising shift is that Gen Z men are more conservative and less likely to identify as supporting feminists than Millenials.

[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

The problem in marketing feminism to young men is it many of them have not personally experienced, or at least understood, how being a man gives them advantages in society as opposed to women. Young men also have a difficult time understanding how easily they can be viewed as toxic, creepy, or even dangerous without self control and respect for others.
I wish I had an answer, most of the young men in my life are more right leaning and think "feminazi" is a legitimate wat to describe left leaning people.

[-] booly@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 days ago

Most men have experienced the stifling gender norms that force them into a box: they're not allowed to cry or show any feeling other than anger, there's no such thing as non-sexual touch or romance, women don't like sex so trying to get close to them is inherently rapey and goes against their desires.

Feminism fights against that trap, that men are only men if they check certain boxes. That's what's toxic: telling men they're not allowed to be certain ways.

So yeah, feminism does have a lot to offer men. Toxic societal expectations are bad for everyone.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Totally agree. Even back in the 70s, the wonderful feminist movie/record Free To Be You and Me (with songs like “It’s All Right to Cry” sung by an NFL player) was at least as much about men not being defined a certain way as it was about women.

I think one hurdle for men right off the bat is the fact that it’s called “feminism”. That makes it clear that it has something to offer women, but doesn’t make it obvious that it has something to offer men too, so they don’t give it an open mind.

(I’m not actually saying that I think the name should change, and in fact the movement could potentially drift away from its core mission over time if the name didn’t have women as the focus. Just saying it’s a hurdle.)

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